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To: LindyBill who wrote (104139)	7/7/2003 1:42:35 AM
From: Dayuhan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

I think our Billions started pouring into Israel to match the money going into Egypt. The money going into Egypt from where? Weren't we basically paying off the Egyptians to keep them out of any future moves against Israel? If anything, the Egyptians got money to match what was going to Israel. I believe most of our money ended back here to pay for the military purchases. Yes, we managed to simultaneously subsidize the Israeli military and the American arms industry. I'm not sure that this was a great idea from the taxpayer's perspective, but that perspective has not generally been much of a concern. I suspect that the traditional Israeli truculence might have been muted somewhat if it had been made clear that American aid could not be taken for granted.

To: LindyBill who wrote (104139)	7/7/2003 7:36:47 AM
From: Dennis O'Bell	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

I have always felt that, without our money, Israel would have had to get rid of it's welfare state to make things work out. I think our Billions started pouring into Israel to match the money going into Egypt. I believe most of our money ended back here to pay for the military purchases. I think what is even more pertinent is that Israel survived it's most precarious early years without military aid from the US, or hardly anyone. If it were not for the huge kickback to our arms industry, we surely wouldn't be funneling as much money to either Israel or Egypt, but don't know accurately how the aid programs to these countries have evolved. It's surely complicated, and the cold war and other factors have to be taken into account in how this present state of affairs has been reached. Not to mention our being stuck on that Godamn Saudi oil teat, the number one biggest problem of all.