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To: frankw1900 who wrote (104294)	7/8/2003 6:01:53 PM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

I've been reading about the American "decline," in some form or another. We have become increasingly vulgar. That's a result of media pressure, IMO. MTV pushes it to the kids with "gangsta rap." The sitcoms look for a way to get higher ratings and push the network censors. And I am seeing sequences on my favorite HBO shows that are "soft porn." I understand the reaction of the social conservatives when I see what is going on. But censorship won't work, so all we can do is get used to it.

To: frankw1900 who wrote (104294)	7/8/2003 6:08:57 PM
From: NightOwl	Respond to of 281500

Frank? You should know by now that I was pulling everyone's leg, including yours. ...Unless you think we have somehow stumbled upon The Fountain of Civilization Youth. <vbg> I figure once your "Civi" is born it is bound to die at some point. Our particular brand of complex society has had a fairly long run. I generally think of it as having been born when mercantile relations evolved a corporate "form." But you could choose any number of start points. But whether you start with Adam, Lucy, the steam engine or some other progenitor, I assume that everyone would agree that "we" will not last forever. Indeed, that's why we argue over where we are on our time line isn't it? Not that I am out to convert your optimist's genes to my pessimist's chromosomes. <g> It's just that I have always been of the opinion that capital goes where ever it wants when allowed to do so in a relatively free environment. That said our local labor costs just aren't capital friendly right now and it has been so for some time. Certainly there are ways for us to overcome that disadvantage [importing cheap labor to abuse here is working pretty well], but I just don't know of a method that would be considered "friendly" by the rest of the world for very long. Couple that with an increasing hesitancy to pay the price of doing "mean" things to our capital competitors around the globe, and it sounds like we want to have or friends and keep their capital too! Something has to give sooner or later right? I mean just how many prisons can we afford to build? 0\|0 P.S. Teddy Roosevelt would agree with me. ...You are on the road to perdition! Come on! Fox Broadcasting for crying out loud! HOMER SIMPSON!! WWF! <Hoo>