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Politics : Bush-The Mastermind behind 9/11? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (1030)	7/14/2003 11:55:21 AM
From: MSI	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 20039

Agreed. The notion that amateur pilots could effectively engage in the maneuvers required to tilt the two jets attacking the WTC at about 35 degrees in order to ignite several floors of the towers rather than one or two, and the radical manuever to divert AA 77 about 270 degrees to the least damaging face of the Pentagon is simply too far fetched to be believable. The answers to the remaining questions of who was involved revolve around the actions of those who should have been in charge of the nation's safety at this time, i.e., what has happened to them, who has attempted to conceal the records, etc. The efforts were well-planned, but it appears the confidence in the ability to stonewall/conceal/distract was too high. The Sunday talk shows for the first time in a while showed fast tap-dancing by Rummie, Ashcroft, Rice. I've never seen Rummie so flustered as he was on Face the Nation, usually the most polished of the administration liars, instead coming across legalistic and disembling in the face of Tim Russert's simple questions. Next: theyll try to reduce the heat by making someone walk the plank, probly a minor subordinate, of course. Won't work tho', the Dean success has encouraged other opposition in both parties to timidly ask for a little bit of truth, here and there. And a little goes a long way. Anyone hear the 911 commission news conference? More of the best tap-dancing in Washington. Example: "No, the administration has not denied us any documents. They are just delaying". I.e., they aren't stonewalling us, they just aren't giving us any documents. LOL! Then they hurrumph about not letting CIA handlers sit with witnesses, etc. There are so many hundreds of witnesses to be concerned about and information to be purged, it will be interesting to see how they get themselves out of this

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (1030)	7/14/2003 2:06:49 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 20039

You cannot find that in the record. I never said that. You are being typically dishonest. Wanna bet? Message 18390116 Message 18390293 Message 18390334 Care to try again? Oh, who was it who was lying here? This is after many months of sorting through evidence that is being deliberately covered up by the Bush junta BS. I presented quite good evidence it was a plane at the time of those posts above. there is a greater likelihood that the attack on the Pentagon was carried out by a rogue element of the Air Force who have been in advanced research and development of remotely operated aircraft. Another wild veer off into Fantasyland. However, I'll save that post in case you try to deny ITS existence. Say, my offer of a little bet that Bush won't try a coup in '04 or '05 still stands. You game? What's the matter? Lose your keyboard?

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (1030)	8/22/2003 9:31:04 PM
From: Sidney Reilly	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 20039

And the "jet" that was originally seen heading towards the White House and then turned towards the Pentagon was described by air traffic controllers as a "fast mover". Not a lumbering passenger jet, but a highly maneuverable "fast mover" that made some very high G turns that are not even possible with a passenger jet because the flying safety software built into the passenger jets won't even let you. The air traffic controllers said it was a "fast mover". They would know, it's their job. Nuff said, the Bush junta is lying.