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To: Chas. who wrote (105586)	7/15/2003 3:14:14 PM
From: marcos	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

How could we possibly know what place is BC on the neocon domination list? ... they seem to keep only three at a time in their Axis of Evil, one place is open now with the occupation of iraquis, who will they put in next, well who knows, they decide all this stuff in the back rooms But consider the actions of the same administration thirty-one days BEFORE twenty-four canadians died in those WTC towers - they slapped punitive tariffs against our main BC industry .... 11 August 2001, check it out, they have the Commerzwaffe move against us 'venomous dislike' - yeah, it's getting to be like that, isn't it .... it's the natural result of this yer with us or agin us division they use, chuck, what can we do .... clearly we are not with them, we have no voice in their decisions, they act against us at will, they have long since set themselves up as our enemies ..... through their manner, yes i do think i 'really know what the man on the street is thinking in Iraq', because we are dealing with your same neocons, and we have come to know them well, not as you know them through their words, but through their actions

To: Chas. who wrote (105586)	7/15/2003 4:15:27 PM
From: epicure	Respond to of 281500

Did you read the interviews with the folks in Falluja? Those men thought we were using dum dum type bullets that explode in people; they accused US servicemen of looting. I don't think either of those things is very likely- but the point is, I am SURE those men who were quoted absolutely totally believe it. Just as much as some people on this thread believe Bush absolutely and totally. Now I want you to try really hard to imagine the fervent belief system of one of the absolutist knee jerk conservatives or liberals on this thread channeled through the lens of devout Islam- then you will have some clue about the man in the street in Falluja. As for the more moderate Iraqis, at the moment they probably just want us to leave ASAP. Soon though, they will probably want to kill us too.