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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Bill who wrote (427452)	7/15/2003 4:21:47 PM
From: Krowbar	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

< The country was founded on Judeo-christian principals as spelled out in the DOI > Right wing bullshit. Repeat a lie often enough...... Del

To: Bill who wrote (427452)	7/15/2003 4:36:22 PM
From: Steve Dietrich	Respond to of 769670

Here's what a few conservative Christians have/had to say about it: Calvinist Gary North: "To put it another way, why were the lawyers in charge of the Convention and the pastors absent? Why were the pamphlet debates of 1787-88 conducted in terms of Roman historical examples and not biblical historical examples? Why was there never any appeal to specific biblical laws, but endless appeals to natural law? Why were the symbols adopted by the Continental Congress, the Convention and the post-War nation systematically non-Christian? Why, if the Constitution is Christian, is the name of Jesus Christ missing?" And conservative AEI scholar Walter Berns: “The American Founders insisted on a separation of church and state not primarily because they wanted to accommodate the varieties of religious beliefs, but because they held it to be self-evident truth that all men were endowed with the natural rights of life, liberty, and the idiosyncratic pursuit of happiness. In the words of the Declaration of Independence, government is instituted by men (not God) in order ‘to secure these rights,’ and a government so instituted is indeed one founded on ‘genuinely secular moral presuppositions.’ I would go further, the very idea of natural rights is incompatible with Christian doctrine, and by its formulators, was understood to be incompatible. In fact, Thomas Hobbes and John Locke were enemies of all revealed religions.” Steve