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Politics : Stop the War! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: AK2004 who wrote (19246)	7/16/2003 1:59:36 PM
From: jttmab	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21614

was that the reason why US planes were turned back? That's a ridiculous correlation. Get serious. You've asked two questions that appear to have an intended implication. That the Israelis intially thought it was Egyptian ship, and once they found out that it was US, they ceased fire. Once the Israelis ceased fire, the US forces were returned to the carrier. Superficially, that sounds to be plausible. Examination of other factors indicates that it is not. You never did comment on US frequencies being jammed. Egpytians don't use US frequencies. In 1967, there weren't broad band jammers around. Communications were jammed by specific frequencies. Jamming was pre-planned based on who you thought the attackers were. You expect US Forces to use US frequencies. If you think that the ship is Egyption, you plan to jam Egyption frequencies. This is not rocket science. The USS Liberty identified that the aircraft [subsequently identified as Israeli] was unmarked. Were the Israelis trying to conceal that an attack on an Egyptian ship was being performed by the Israelis? They are in a state of war; it's not an Israeli covert mission to attack Egyptians. As I mentioned in an earlier post, not all military missions are successful. US planes turning back based on the presumption that Israel had ceased fire. The USS Liberty was serverely damaged. I can't think of another instance of US Forces that were under attack and abandoned for days when we knew where they were. Even if fighter aircraft were recalled based on the supposition that the attack was over, where was the air rescue mission? The Liberty's hull was severely damaged and was at risk of sinking. The surviving crew of the Liberty has never indicated that they discouraged any US forces from rescue. At a minimum, an aircraft dump of lifeboats in the vicinity of the Liberty would have been called for. If there wasn't communication between the fleet and the Liberty, it's a no brainer to send an air rescue operation to assess the situation at a minimum. One particular characteristic of the US military, is that we don't abandon our forces under fire. That is completely anathema to American thinking. Something extraordinary must have overriden that policy. Also, I believe it's a violation of the Geneva Conventions to attack lifeboats. jttmab