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To: marcos who wrote (105855)	7/16/2003 8:01:53 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

they intimidated, robbed, tortured, murdered, raped, and pillaged the loyalists into submission and/or flight and/or death Your link and the historical record would support the "intimidated, robbed," and "pillaged" words in your sentence. That happened for sure. "tortured" is iffy - the rail riding and tarring was probably pretty painful. However, re. your words "murdered" and "raped", I see nothing in your link to support that. Likely someone somewhere was but that doesn't seem to have been the normal situation. Without being able to back up the claim of murder of Loyalists, and lots of them, your attempt to slander George Washington as worse than bin Ladin only reveals your own anti-American bias.

To: marcos who wrote (105855)	7/16/2003 8:55:39 PM
From: aladin	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Marcos, There were more than 13 colonies. Little known to most Americans were battles fought in Nova Scotia and Upper Canada. However here the British won - and so they did not gain independence by force and had to wait for confederation. As an aside the British and future Canadian colonists were not saints. The Univeristy I attended was founded using Privateering money from the pillaging of Bath Maine and several American ships. This privateering continued through the early 1800's was a contributing factor to the War of 1812. As much as Canadians like to think they won that war (when they weren't even a country) the strategic issue of American independence was resolved. John