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To: Neeka who wrote (105956)7/17/2003 2:28:36 PM
From: Bilow  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Hi Re: "Your personal attack of a woman who sees progress in Iraq differently than you do ..."

This is what she wrote: "The Iraqis have been mostly content to live in tents, mud houses, and sand for thousands of years." Do you really want to describe this as "sees progress in Iraq differently", LOL.

It's stunning that someone with a TV is unaware that Iraqis mostly live in wood houses, rather than in "tents, mud houses and sand". Which are these:
usinfo.state.gov

I guess this isn't a computer in an Iraqi high school:
usinfo.state.gov

...
In between the streets, areas of typical Baghdad houses are found. These are distinguished by the the 1st floor wooden bays with latticed windows, and inner open courtyards
...

i-cias.com

Re: "I know KLP personally and her exhaustive voluntary efforts in trying to make this a better world are numerous and honorable."

Intentions don't mean shit. KLP's ignorant opinions killed thousands of Iraqis, destroyed our nation's foreign policy, ruined the Republican party, and are continuing to grind away at our military.

-- Carl



To: Neeka who wrote (105956)7/18/2003 2:07:50 AM
From: KLP  Respond to of 281500
 
Thanks M~ Appreciate your vote of confidence. It's been my observation over the years that when someone is that vituperative and obnoxious, they are lashing out and searching for help. Hopefully he find some.



To: Neeka who wrote (105956)7/18/2003 2:13:05 AM
From: KLP  Respond to of 281500
 
CNN-In-Depth Specials - Iraq - 2001 - Income and Citizens

Note: Here's some info on the whole of Iraq...not just Baghdad...

In the aftermath of the Gulf War, with continued sanctions and an ongoing standoff over weapons inspections, analysts say it is the Iraqi people who have suffered the most.

Parents rely on rations to stretch meager paychecks. Iraq's clinics and hospitals are in such poor condition that children often receive inadequate health care. Many young people beg on streets for money to feed their families.

Although Baghdad is allowed to sell unlimited quantities of oil to buy food, medicine and other humanitarian supplies for the Iraqi people, Iraqi cabinet ministers have frequently charged that goods bought with the oil proceeds usually are slow to arrive, offering little overall benefit to Iraqi citizens. U.S. officials say Iraqi officials, including Saddam Hussein, probably are skimming millions of dollars from the proceeds.

Here is a demographic look at Iraq before and after the war.

Population:
22,675,617 (2000)
18,781,770 (1990)
13,800,000 (1981)

Infant mortality rate:
62.49 deaths/1,000 live births (2000)
67 deaths/1,000 live births (1990)
28 deaths/1,000 live births (1977)

Life expectancy at birth:
male 65.54 years; female 67.56 years (2000)
male 66 years; female 68 years (1990)
male 51.2; female 54.3 (1975)

Literacy:
58% (1995)
55-65% (1989)
30% (1978)

Economy:
GDP $59.9 billion (1999)
Per capita income $2,700 (1999)

GDP $35 billion (1989)
Per capita income $1,940 (1989)

GDP $19 billion (1977)
Per capita income $1,561 (1978)

Inflation rate (consumer prices):
135% (1999)
30-40% (1989)

Exports:
$12.7 billion (1999)
$12.5 billion (1988)
$10.59 billion (1981)

Imports:
$8.9 billion (1999)
$10.2 billion (1988)
$12.94 billion (1980)

External debt:
$130 billion (1999)
$40 billion (1988), excluding debt to Persian Gulf Arab states

Military:
Expenditures - dollar figure: $NA (2000)
Expenditures - percent of GDP: NA% (2000)

Expenditures: NA (1990)

Expenditures -- dollar figure: $7,722,000 (1982)
(Sources: CIA World Factbook 2000, CIA World Factbook 1990 and World Almanac 1993)

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