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To: Lane3 who wrote (6829)	7/17/2003 6:55:55 PM
From: The Philosopher	Respond to of 7720

I thought I already said that I'm using one term to represent the state's recognition of a partnership contract and the other to represent the religious and societal recognition. I'm sure I already said that in a post to Jewel. Ah. Okay. So one can be married but NOT have a civil contract, and vice versa, or have both, or have neither? Do I understand correctly? Now, would the rights and privileges of civil contracts and marriage be the same? Or different? And if different, how? Don't you think that more people would abide by the speed limit if they had to commit to it each time they got on the on ramp? Uh, actually, not unless there were more tickets handed out. I think that would be more likely to cause road rage as people backed up and as they tried to make up the time they wasted having to make this dumb commitment. Human nature! As to whether they would be better parents if they were forced to go to counseling, in general I find forced counseling ineffective at best and counterproductive at worst. If the counseling were available but not required, that might work. I used to be an advocate of the Court requiring, for example, domestic violence perps to go to anger management counseling. But I've never seen it help anybody who didn't want to be helped before they started going, and in one case it just gave the perp more ideas about how to harass his partner as it talked about the prevalence and effect of such things as economic and social deprivation.