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To: CountofMoneyCristo who wrote (1655)	7/17/2003 7:18:40 PM
From: Jon Tara	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 3143

"You don't have a very good record here of objectivity" Where did I ever say that I was objective? And when did that become a requirement for posting here? I'm not a judge. I'm an observor. I don't have to be objective. That's one of the problems I have with your approach to this thread. You claim you want an open, uncensored forum. But then you want everybody to be objective. Openness != objectivity. You miss the entire point of an "open forum". And open forum isn't one where everyone is objective. It's one where all points of view can be heard, and the participants are able to reach their own conclusions based on all of the viewpoints heard. This ceased to be an open forum when you started making threats toward those whose viewpoints differ from yours. My remarks are based solely on your own postings - the inconsistencies and irrationalities that I have found in them. I have, of course, filtered your posts through my own set of biases and experience - as, presumably has everyone else who has posted here. I will readily admit that I have a bias against those who will not take responsibility for their own actions. Yes, even if they have a crime committed against them. Somebody goes into the bad part of town, repeatedly, looking for trouble, and they get beat up - I have no sympathy for them.

To: CountofMoneyCristo who wrote (1655)	7/18/2003 12:35:49 AM
From: Jon Tara	Respond to of 3143

Count, YOU certainly have no claim to objectivity. How can you expect objectivity of others, when you are entirely non-objective? You have painted a picture here with selective details. When asked for further details, you clam-up, claiming it would give away your secret strategy. How objective is that? How objective can any observer be, without you providing all of the details, but nothing more than "trust me" when asked for the critical details?