Saw the following interview, and found it worthwhile.
PAUL KANGAS: My guest "Market Monitor" this week is Frank Cochrane, president of Investment Timing Consultants, a financial advisory firm based in Farmington, Michigan. And welcome back to NIGHTLY BUSINESS REPORT, Frank.
FRANK COCHRANE, PRES., INVESTMENT TIMING CONSULTANTS: Paul, it's great to be here, thank you very much.
KANGAS: When you were last with us in December, you had changed your outlook from extremely bearish to short-term bullish, saying that the markets would have worthwhile rallies but that the trading range would be fairly narrow. And that's about what happened. Do you think the market, however, now has changed its character a bit?
COCHRANE: Not at all. What we’re seeing is a cyclical bear market within a secular bear market. And that being said, I think we're at the upper end of the range, especially the Dow. I can't really see the Dow penetrating the 9500 level, the S&P, say the 1015 to 1025 area, or the NDX penetrating say that 1350 area. So we’re definitely to the upper end of that range and I think for the next say three to six months or so, at best the market will go sideways, at worst it will go down say 15 to 20 percent, which I think is entirely likely, especially in the technology area that has seen a huge advance, multiples there off the map and I don't think the earnings reports that we're hearing now really justify the price movement that we're seeing. That coupled with the economy not doing that well. The employment picture isn't great. I think there is a lot of dubiousness out there still. So we're just seeing a nice rally certainly, but its within the confines of the bigger, bigger picture of the bear market.
KANGAS: So valuation is still a concern of yours like it was last December?
COCHRANE: Certainly. You know, when you have got the multiple of the S&P 500 at say 32, depending on what you believe, unestimated (ph), as reporting maybe a tad lower on the NASDAQ 100, the P/E multiple is somewhere I think over 200, because (UNINTELLIGIBLE) earnings (ph) of a lot of companies. So yes, valuation is definitely a concern here. And I think seasonally too we're going to be going into a time frame over the next three to six months where the market will works its way lower.
KANGAS: Well, the last time you were with us in December you made some recommendations, specific ones like Northrop (NOC), which had a little run-up, and now it’s a bit lower then it was then, but United Technologies (UTX) has had a very good run. That was an excellent call. Johnson & Johnson (JNJ) has been higher than it is now. It’s a few points lower. You also liked the golds like Newmont Mining (NEM) was one of your favorites, and it is up very nicely, as is Barrick (ABX), and Gold Fields (GFI) has been higher but it’s down a bit. Some pretty good calls all in all. What do you like now?
COCHRANE: Well, first of all, we trade index funds, mutual funds, that type of thing. But some stocks certainly that I would look at is in the oil-related field. Halliburton (HAL), I think Halliburton has certainly struggled for the last couple of years. It’s a company though I think the chart pattern to me looks good and I think this asbestos situation will sort of be brushed aside eventually. I think that stock to me looks real, real strong, though it used to be $60 a share for that matter, still a real good company. Transocean (RIG), RIG is the symbol, we like the chart pattern there. It has been coming down. It’s something where I think it’s going to be bottoming out and moving higher. Next one would be ExxonMobil (XOM), we all know what they do, and certainly oil prices are $31 a barrel. I don't think they're coming down much soon. And finally, I still like the golds, I like Newmont Mining for gold. I think gold has begun a long-term bull market. I’m not talking about the next year, I’m talking about the next five years. I think it will do exceptionally well through this year and the next year and beyond, because the dollar, the jury still is out on the dollar. And one special situation stock that I would talk about is called Impax Laboratories (IPXL), they make generic drugs, symbol IPXL. I like the chart pattern there. The stock is a thinly-traded stock, so I would certainly watch buying it. But I would take a look at it…
KANGAS: What price level is it at now?
COCHRANE: It’s right around $11 ½ a share. But it’s very thinly-traded, so I would watch that aspect.
KANGAS: Be careful before you put in a market order.
COCHRANE: A market order. Do not put a market order in, exactly.
KANGAS: All right. We just have a few minutes or – minutes, a few seconds to talk about bonds. Yes or no?
COCHRANE: No. I think short term, long term, it’s not worth the risk. We have seen the 10-year go from about 3.10 up to 4 percent. And certainly Mr. Greenspan, who is trying to reflate the economy, I think the bond has put an inflation risk in there. And if he's successful, certainly bonds will not be good. But short term or long term I would just avoid them. It’s not worth the risk.
KANGAS: Those stocks you recommended, do you have personal interests, you or your firm?
COCHRANE: Not at all, Paul.
KANGAS: OK. All right, Frank, so you’re not as bearish as you were about a year ago but you see special situations, just ride them for a little way.
COCHRANE: Correct.
KANGAS: Take profit.
COCHRANE: You have to trade this market.
KANGAS: OK. Clear enough. Thanks very much for being with us.
COCHRANE: Thank you, Paul, thank you very much.
KANGAS: My guest "Market Monitor" this week, Frank Cochrane, president of Investment Timing Consultants.
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