To: Sharp_End_Of_Drill who wrote (19928 ) 7/21/2003 2:07:29 PM From: kodiak_bull Respond to of 23153 Congratulations on your baby, Sharp. Congratulations on Baby Sharp (I like the sound of that). A few observations: First, boys are easier to raise than girls. Girls are more complicated. IMHO the wheels can come off your boy (assuming away accidents, terrorist attacks, etc.) only in a couple of ways: boys have a tendency to love speed (which see skateboards, mountain bikes, motorcycles, cars) and a tendency to hurt each other physically (which see hitting with toys in play groups, occasional biting, hitting with fists in grade school, throwing snowballs and rocks, etc.). Avoid any lasting effects from these two and a boy is probably okay. Girls can have the wheels come off in a myriad of ways: self perception, confidence, eating disorders, popularity contests (and debacles), early boy friends, bad influence girl friends, skateboarder boyfriends 3 years older, etc. You never see a teenage boy upset because he's getting his father's thighs, or because his friend Joe is wearing the exact same pair of baggy shorts to the skate park. Boys don't have bulimia; for some reason they prefer burping contests. I have coached a 12 year old boys' soccer team. You get 16 boys, each with a personality. You have to deal with them. I have also coached 12 year old girls' soccer teams. You get 16 girls, each with about 12 different personalities, or about 4238 potential combinations on any given day. Boys answer instructions with either "Okay" or "I guess so." Girls might deign to answer instructions in any number of ways, often, "Well, I don't see why . . . " and "Well, but like what if . . ." Or just that withering look at you, as if you were a bug. The most enjoyable age for a child for a mother is right now, zero to age 11 or so. There's a scientific, chemical reason for this. For fathers it is literally an acquired taste (again, this is science). Personally I found the early baby stage (0-6 months, I thought of it as the cabbage like stage) to be less interesting than the sitting up/crawling/walking stage (6 months to 2 years). The best time is 4 years to 7 years old, and then for a dad with a boy, 7 to 12 is pretty cool as well. Some of the girl stuff from 7 to 12 is a bit incomprehensible and impossible to join in on (My Little Pony, or tea parties, etc.), but that age is okay too. At the age of 12 all bets are off. First sign you are in trouble is when they roll their eyes at what you're saying when they think you're not looking. I understand things get pretty good again at about the age of 25, but I'm still waiting for proof. They will receive their "proper dues" only when they make you the grandfather of a child who turns 12, properly termed the "payback years." Kb