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To: Neeka who wrote (106457)	7/19/2003 2:41:04 PM
From: GST	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

The whole world WAS with us until we adopted a policy that was 100% certain to be unsupportable by our allies -- regime change. From that point on, we have been alone, except for Blair who was very concerned about the consequences of having the US out there completely alone with the shaky set of international institutions built after the second world war left in ruins by the United States. The hatred, confusion and disarray did not happen by accident or as a result of flaws in human nature or because of people being critical: It was a matter of US policy that turned the world against us.

To: Neeka who wrote (106457)	7/19/2003 3:36:59 PM
From: Noel de Leon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

"Tony Blair in his wisdom and astuteness points out that hate is the most powerful weapon of all." Nonsense. The most powerful weapon of all is truth.

To: Neeka who wrote (106457)	7/19/2003 3:40:31 PM
From: Noel de Leon	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

"it is perfectly clear that terrorists are succeeding beautifully in their mission to "divide humanity in hate." More correctly: It is perfectly clear that Bush II and company are succeeding beautifully in dividing humanity in hate.

To: Neeka who wrote (106457)	7/20/2003 6:40:22 PM
From: Win Smith	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

Oh, for crying out loud. There's always been plenty of hatred exhibited around here, but as near as I can tell most of it has usually been in the form of a never-ending stream of self-righteous indignation directed at Arabs, or Palestinians, or Muslims, or "Liberals", or anybody else who wasn't 4-square behind W and Rummy and the current "war is peace" dogma of the PNAC people. Or do you think "useful idiot" is a term of endearment or something? I used to even have a pat gloss of Strangelove to go with it, "We must not have a hatred gap!". On the political front, anybody who was awake during the Clinton years witnessed more than enough political hatred to last a lifetime. The idea that the minor amount of heat W is taking because postwar Iraq didn't quite turn out the way the PNAC fantasists predicted constitutes "hatred" is just plain ridiculous.