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To: Seeker of Truth who wrote (36321)	7/20/2003 1:54:26 AM
From: smolejv@gmx.net	Respond to of 74559

qualcomm.com 8/26/2002: >>...Except for the historical information contained herein, this news release contains forward-looking statements that are subject to risks and uncertainties, ...<< Nokia? well, something in March 2001 ... see qualcomm.com EDIT: Hu?, what´s that mean ?! (Nov 67 2002) >>Industry leaders NTT DoCoMo, Ericsson, Nokia and Siemens, and Japanese manufacturers reach a mutual understanding to support modest royalty rates for the W-CDMA technology worldwide<< nokia.com

To: Seeker of Truth who wrote (36321)	7/20/2003 5:23:51 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Respond to of 74559

Good point Malcolm. I have trouble with the definition of the word altruism and think I got it wrong. If the intention is to help, then that's altruistic whatever the outcome, if there's a cost in providing the help [such as foregoing patent rights to an idea as the Tron inventor did]. So yes, Jay's advice at the cost of his valuable time would count in the altruistic category, even if he was logically wrong and saved one person at the expense of another, for no net saving of people [though as he says, it's a spreading of the damage if several share the pain and maybe that's a good outcome]. Siemens' latest royalty agreement here: qualcomm.com Mqurice