To: Maurice Winn who wrote (106726 ) 7/20/2003 9:17:08 PM From: Jacob Snyder Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500 <a misguided 17 year old. Or 16 year old. Or 15 year old....> You're on a slippery slope, there. Can't find any clear dividing line, for who is and isn't a child. Who goes into Guantanamo cages for life, and who shouldn't. The youngest at Guantanamo is 13. But wiser people than you and I, have spent a great deal of time coming up with rules and definitions. That wisdom is embedded in treaties the U.S. has signed, treaties that have the force of law. Except that, since we are in the Age of Lies, it is SOP to ignore treaties and laws. Summary of UN Convention on the Rights of the Child:216.239.57.104 The Convention on the Rights of the Child applies to all people under 18 years (article 1). Article 37 Governments should ensure that no child is subjected to torture or other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment. The arrest, detention or imprisonment of children should be used only as a last resort and for the shortest period possible. All children deprived of their liberty should be treated with humanity and respect, taking into account the needs of people their age; all children deprived of their liberty should be separated from adults unless it is not in their best interests; and all children have a right to maintain contact with their family. All children deprived of their liberty have the right to prompt access to legal and other assistance Optional Protocol (to the Convention on the Rights of the Child) on the involvement of children in armed conflicts: 193.194.138.190 This specifically sets 18 as the lowest age a person can be considered a soldier. A treaty ratified by the United States in December 2002 establishes a higher age of 18 as the minimum age for any compulsory recruitment or participation in armed conflict. It also obliges governments to assist in the demobilization and rehabilitation of former child soldiers. "The use of children as soldiers is an appalling abuse," said Becker. "These children are entitled to rehabilitation, not indefinite detention."216.239.51.104