If conservatives have allegedly forgotten about Bill Clinton, why does a local search on "Clinton" only go back to July 12 (2003, of course) before hitting SI's 80-odd post limit. What follows is what comes before my little mention today, I can't imagine that all these posts come from "liberals". So much hatred, so little time.
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 20, 2003 5:52 PM
But SC.
The Neocons are still calling the shots.
These guys don't like to admit they were wrong. In fact, unless you agree they are always 100% correct they get mad.
To save Bush's pResidency he has to take on new counselors, new language and and ............ 1493 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 20, 2003 4:39 PM
Kim Jong il is a mental case, was from birth, he is the means to the ends for the ruling military elite, they have no intention of giving up their lifestyle for the betterment of the North Korean peoples, never happen.....
The entire Nuclear threat i ............ 761 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 20, 2003 12:46 PM
<<<<Everything I do and think does not stem from the single idea: GWB must be removed.>>>
These are just the first steps in elimination of terrorist threats and ending nuclear proliferation. We started with a strong horse and plunged into flood ............ 2790 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 20, 2003 11:09 AM
On the face of it, this does sound reasonable, that the Bush admin would refuse to negotiate alone with NK, in favour of a broader based table, all the interested parties hearing every word
I'd say it does.. But it seems so few of you Bush hat ............ 1079 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 20, 2003 12:09 AM
:-)
It is a rhetorical device which is a false dichotomy. The fallacies are often called rhetorical devices or even flourishes by people who want to use them, or defend them.....
Even if Clinton had said it, it still would have been a false dichotom ............ 513 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 20, 2003 12:04 AM
you're right, it was GST who misquoted Bush. Sorry.
And you don't address the substance of your false dichotomy (and Mr. Bush's) at all
I don't see it as a false dichotomy, I see it as a rhetorical device, urging everybody to believe that th ............ 465 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 19, 2003 10:54 PM
GOP's double standard on presidential lies
By Derrick Z. Jackson, 7/18/2003
AMERICAN SOLDIERS continue to die in Iraq, and the Republicans do not want us to know why. In a 51-45 vote, the Republican-led Senate this week rejected a proposal for an ............ 10061 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 19, 2003 6:24 PM
<<And he's betting that the democratic economies of the west, being generally non-confrontational, will bow to his threats.
And history has shown that when you appease tyrants and bullies, they only come back later on with even bigger demands.>>
He ............ 498 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 19, 2003 6:24 PM
Send them the food and oil we stopped sending them when this flap with BUsh started.
Uh.. we've tried that rascal.. Remember that Carter and Clinton came to that arrangement back in 1994 and we've been bribing.. err.. subsidizing them ever sin ............ 2312 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 19, 2003 9:49 AM
GOP's Double Standard On Presidential Lies
by Derrick Z. Jackson
Published on Friday, July 18, 2003 by the Boston Globe
AMERICAN SOLDIERS continue to die in Iraq, and the Republicans do not want us to know why. In a 51-45 vote, the Republican ............ 4960 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 18, 2003 7:43 PM
" were you this harsh when Clinton bombed an aspirin factory based on bad intelligence? "......
Too funny Nadine.
I was one of those who figured it was a " Wag The Dog " scenario at the time.That appeared to flow well here as well.
Now I'm tryin ............ 550 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 18, 2003 6:58 PM
NK, you pay us and we won't nuke the US. That's appeasment to you? That sounds like the Mafia threatening a store owner.
<<Notice, also, that we didn't even give the N. Koreans what we promised in the 1994 Agreement. We didn't build the two reactors, ............ 493 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 18, 2003 6:36 PM
Opposing the Iraq war while supporting the Kosovo war is illogical, IMO. Saddam was responsible for far more atrocities in Iraq than Milosevitz was in Kosovo. In fact Kosovo repression before we intervened was much milder than what some of our allies s ............ 941 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 18, 2003 5:39 PM
Clinton did take plenty of heat on that from the self-righteous right-wing hotheads around SI, at least when they could be distracted from the other voluminous crap they were perpetually pumping out. Plus, current token "liberal" war cheerleader Christ ............ 609 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 18, 2003 3:49 PM
<<Korea delusions
7/17/2003
RESIDENT Bush's handling of the nuclear threat from North Korea has long suffered from a realism deficit. But now that Pyongyang is claiming it has processed plutonium from the 8,000 spent fuel rods that were stored un ............ 3102 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 18, 2003 8:57 AM
Postwar Window Closing in Iraq, Study Says
More Funds, International Force Recommended to Improve Security Situation
By Vernon Loeb
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, July 18, 2003; Page A09
washingtonpost.com ............ 1040 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 18, 2003 7:57 AM
According to the UN charter, there are only two legitimate ways to use force: in self- defense, or under UN mandate. Sorry, you are wrong. The UN did not condemn Clinton, but it has not condemned Bush either........ ............ 215 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 18, 2003 5:41 AM
Pentagon Consultants Warn U.S. Must Act Fast on Iraq
This study is a hopeful sign. The knuckleheads at the Pentagon and the White House started figuring out (at last!) that they need a lot more resources NOW to save Iraq (and Bush's reelection ............ 387 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 18, 2003 5:37 AM
July 17, 2003
Radical Cheek
Who's rad?
By Michael Young - Reason
One of the splendid media sagas in the last two years has been the movement of journalist Christopher Hitchens from political left to right on Afghanistan and Iraq. What prompte ............ 5526 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 18, 2003 3:35 AM
Hi wstera_02; Re: ""Does "within one year" count as imminent?" Not according to webster."
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! LOL!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Look, when it gets so tough that prevaricators have to pull out dictionaries to prove that they didn't use ............ 3639 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 18, 2003 2:22 AM
Anyway..the " I wus jist'a beliven what the good folks over at the CIA wus a tellin me ".....won't wash.There are too many checks and balances for that to slip through to a believable or acceptable explanation.
Gee, KC, were you this harsh wh ............ 317 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 17, 2003 11:08 PM
I'd love to see what the reaction from some of the more vociferous right wing posters here would be if the shoe was on the other foot i.e. if it was the Clinton admin. that distorted the facts to pre-emptively invade Iraq.
Rather more muted, I ............ 731 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 17, 2003 10:59 PM
I'd love to see what the reaction from some of the more vociferous right wing posters here would be if the shoe was on the other foot i.e. if it was the Clinton admin. that distorted the facts to pre-emptively invade Iraq.
<<The administration refer ............ 480 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 17, 2003 8:33 PM
We did bomb the crap out of it, I understand. Pretty much everyone else in the world of every political stripe thinks it was a war (see below for examples of varied opinion on the matter).
And one with no UN approval and no Congressional authorizatio ............ 1197 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 17, 2003 6:12 PM
We never declared war on Yugoslavia because Pres. Clinton never bothered putting it up for a vote in either the UN or Congress.
We declared war on Serbia? When did Congress vote for war on Serbia? ............ 206 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 17, 2003 6:06 PM
I did not say that we declared war on Serbia, I said that we attacked it:
FRIDAY, APRIL 16, 1999
USA
Congress lets Clinton lead on Kosovo, for now
Division about use of ground troops means that it continues to defer to the president.
Ann Scot ............ 6083 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 17, 2003 5:30 PM
Message to thread:
I am astonished no comments about the stellar speech to the joint houses of congress by Tony Blair have surfaced.
I would gladly vote for him as President. He is able to articulate important goals for western nations that have in ............ 1927 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 17, 2003 5:03 PM
We attacked Serbia (mainly Belgrade) on behalf of Kosovo, to prevent genocide and expulsion of the Albanian- Serbian majority in that region. This occured during the Clinton Administration...... ............ 194 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 17, 2003 4:22 PM
We had no legal basis for going to war on behalf of Kosovo. I would be curious, did you denounce Clinton? I supported him on that, considering the imminence of genocide sufficient reason to intervene....... ............ 206 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 17, 2003 4:11 PM
<I could never understand this charge of 'moral relativism'>
America's social pendulum swings back and forth. At one pole are the Puritans, the Victorians. God, King, and Country. The Good Book contains The Truth, and our government is it's manifestat ............ 1236 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 17, 2003 2:35 PM
That's kind of vague- it isn't even calling any particular party names (I don't like that either).
I am talking about taking names of people like Clinton or Reno or Bush or Cheney- and making them into epithets or attaching them to vulgarities, or deh ............ 753 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 17, 2003 6:09 AM
Incompetence can cost millions of lives: <<Mr Perry said with uncharacteristic bluntness: "The reason we don't have a policy on this and aren't negotiating is the President himself. I think he has come to the conclusion that Kim Jong Il is evil and loath ............ 4309 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 17, 2003 12:42 AM
The Press Gives Bush A Free Ride On His Lies
by Robert Kuttner
Published on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 by the Boston Globe
I'M GLAD THAT the press is finally making an issue of President Bush's knowing use of a faked intelligence report on ............ 4947 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 16, 2003 11:46 PM
If His Words Are His Bond, We're in a Bind
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by Arianna Huffington
Published on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 by the Los Angeles Times
Quick, somebody get the Bush White House a copy of "All the President's Men." A slow dr ............ 2907 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 16, 2003 11:33 PM
Hi Neocon; Re: "He in effect says ..."
This is just another admission that you have zero quotes from Blix saying that he thought that Iraq had WMDs in late 2002 or early 2003. Keep on looking, liar.
Look, the whole problem with your "proof" ............ 1524 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 16, 2003 7:58 PM
The deeper issues of US foreign policy are the ones that are the most disturbing. When the foreign policy of the US took a sudden turn in a radical new direction towards "regime change at all costs" -- the lying and related nonsense that was used to push ............ 1596 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 16, 2003 6:40 PM
Hate for America? How dare you. When people were outraged by Clinton lying on national television, the anger was not "hate for America". It was justifiable outrage. When people are outraged at being lied by a President that declares war, commits troops a ............ 437 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 16, 2003 5:55 PM
Re: Politics and FADG...Don'tt worry S3...What you say stands alone, and doesn't hurt my feelings. I just consider the source.
BTW, What I believe Ken meant while asking us not to politize this thread was just that...no campaign signs, openly and all ............ 791 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 16, 2003 9:20 AM
I was talking about US military operations and UN approval. Ken banned Clinton sex talk, but as far as I know, he didn't ban discussing history between the years 1993 and 2001. ............ 176 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 15, 2003 10:10 PM
Re North Korea...In August 1998, House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert asked nine senior Members of Congress to form the North Korea Advisory Group and report to him on the North Korean threat to the United States and our allies.
The Speaker asked ............ 4975 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 15, 2003 9:52 PM
<So Clinton gave them 6 more years to build nukes. >
Yes, he did. He didn't solve the problem. Neither has Bush, or for that matter any U.S. President since Truman.
Clinton's mistakes were:
1. he didn't write broad enough inspection rules, to ve ............ 549 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 15, 2003 9:42 PM
<<Clinton's dishonesty was as effective as Bush's threats, in stopping NK's nuclear program. That is, totally ineffective. >>
So Clinton gave them 6 more years to build nukes. ............ 179 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 15, 2003 9:36 PM
<Clinton's pay them but let them make nukes.>
Endless revisionism. As has been extensively documented and discussed on this thread, what happened was:
Clinton to NK: we'll pretend to do what we agreed to, you pretend to stop trying to make nukes.
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Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 15, 2003 9:33 PM
I realize this is all relative- and it's just my opinion-
but the younger woman takes advantage of her looks,
and the older man takes advantage of his power, and his wealth.
I did not mean to imply there are not advantages on both sides (which is w ............ 1541 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 15, 2003 9:02 PM
<<What I find most disheartening, is that the Japanese have claimed the right to pre-emptively protect themselves against a missile attack from N. Korea. This is new, it amounts to a reversal of their previous strictly-defensive posture. They have adopte ............ 459 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 15, 2003 8:54 PM
<I don't like the fact that Clinton took advantage of a younger woman >
X, in international relations, it's not always clear who is taking advantage of whom. The primary test is whether the respective actions are manifestations of the persons' ............ 980 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 15, 2003 4:51 PM
Actually Noel, the infamous "There's nukes in them thar hills" 16 word statement wasn't technically correct.
For a start, it's suspicious that the number 16 apparently carries some weight. If it was 1000 words and untrue, then it would apparently b ............ 2811 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 15, 2003 4:32 PM
I must have missed something- sex games with cigars between consenting adults are "perverted"? Now I don't like the fact that Clinton took advantage of a younger woman (though I do think that attempting to prevent such relationships by law is unrealisti ............ 583 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 15, 2003 3:44 PM
When Clinton engaged his perverted juvenile instincts and shoved that cigar into Monica, how many Americans died? Bush and Clinton have only one thing in common -- an inability to be truthful. ............ 192 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 15, 2003 3:29 PM
What to do about North Korea?
Worst-case scenarios, North Korea could:
1) Collapse -- that is what China and South Korea worry about. I don't think we care too much about this outcome. Unfortunately, that is why we cannot get South Korea and China ............ 3668 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 15, 2003 2:17 PM
Secretary of State, Colin Powell and several of his designates, Condelizza Rice and several of her designates, Undersecretary Wolfawitz and several Georgetown thinktanks are all very capably dealing with the North Korean situation as I write.......thank ............ 351 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 15, 2003 1:15 PM
GST,
On several hundred occasions. While patrolling the UN sanctioned no fly zones, Iraqi forces have fired on or locked on anti-aircraft missile batteries on coalition forces.
This came to a boil on several occasions and once resulted in Operatio ............ 538 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 15, 2003 12:12 PM
I can't remember, did the UN approve of Clinton's use of force in Haiti? Did they approve of his bombing of Sudan? Afhanistan? Did they sanction Clinton's bombing of Baghdad? How about Kosovo - which security council resolution authorized U.S. force ther ............ 256 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 15, 2003 12:07 PM
Of course.....Clinton went into Bosnia without the UN stamp of approval.... ............ 75 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 15, 2003 7:55 AM
Peaceful Warrior
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by Chris Strohm and Ingrid Drake
Published on Monday, July 14, 2003 by TomPaine.com
As the U.S. occupation of Iraq extends with no end in sight, and the death toll for both U.S. soldiers and Ira ............ 7526 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 15, 2003 3:39 AM
The WP article sums up where we are, and the arguments. With your "Bush is always wrong" attitude, you can join Perry. But you will notice that even Perry is saying we may have to use force.
U.S., N. Korea Drifting Toward War, Perry Warns
Former De ............ 9062 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 15, 2003 12:18 AM
Iraq had no nuke program -- you have answered nothing. North Korea has been working like crazy since 9/11 to get the bomb. They likely don't have it -- yet. But will have it soon. If Bush made nukes a priority, North Korea was clearly the threat. There w ............ 565 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 14, 2003 11:32 PM
NY Times Asks Congress to Probe Its Errors
(2003-07-12) -- The New York Times today asked Congress to launch an investigation into all the errors The Times has made during the past 107 years. The request comes on the heels of a Times' editorial demandi ............ 1636 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 14, 2003 10:07 PM
why invade a country like Iraq which has NO NUKE program while leaving North Korea to finish its business?
The cost of invading Iraq, in money and lives, was judged to be acceptable; the cost of invading N. Korea was judged otherwise. It's ............ 445 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 14, 2003 8:57 PM
We know where there is a rogue nation with super serious nuke intent and a weapons supplier to anybody with a buck. If that is our priority explain why we have committed ourselves to an armed occupation of a country with no nuke program.
Exac ............ 438 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 14, 2003 3:44 PM
Clinton, sminton. Answer the question please. We know where there is a rogue nation with super serious nuke intent and a weapons supplier to anybody with a buck. If that is our priority explain why we have committed ourselves to an armed occupation of a ............ 283 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 14, 2003 3:00 PM
If we are mostly concerned about "nukes", then why did we attack Iraq instead of North Korea?
For several reasons. But on the Nuke subject by itself, we know now that Clinton should have settled this before the NKs got them. We will not longer ............ 472 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 14, 2003 1:22 PM
Well, X, there are still some people that think that our involvement in WWII needed more proof than Pearl Harbor.
And if the US hadn't honored the commitments with it's allies in Europe, perhaps they, and we, would be living in and under a foreign gov ............ 468 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 14, 2003 8:49 AM
Well it just keeps getting more and more contradictory.
Look at this…don't you think that "surprising sources" are getting a little tiresome at this point.
On the one hand we have the Weekly Standard quoting Jessica Stern writing in Foreign Affai ............ 2326 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 14, 2003 2:26 AM
WOW...Jacob...now THAT post is really a stretch.
Yes, Clinton should have taken the responsibility as well as Reno. After all, 74 Americans were killed at Waco.
Perhaps you missed the news earlier in the week. The White House apologized for tha ............ 760 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 13, 2003 8:47 PM
<Under your "reasoning", Clinton would have had to apologize for Waco...>
Since I am anti-Bush, you expect, in spite of all evidence, that I am going to be pro-Clinton. You keep on expecting it, even though I consistently say the exact opposite.
Of ............ 1122 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 13, 2003 12:36 PM
That's what politics dictates, and Bush has proven, in his two and a half years in office, that his presidency is driven by politics more than any other, far surpassing Clinton's in this respect.
Huh? what do you mean by "politics", polls? Ho ............ 299 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 13, 2003 11:33 AM
KL,
I think there are many NEOCON's in the government, but that does not make it completely NEOCON (whatever you define that to be). Even Clinton had his advisors pushing him in many directions - even towards trying a decapitation strike on North Kor ............ 880 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 13, 2003 10:06 AM
Hi Carl. The administration is showing flexibility in Iraq, and this bodes well, IMO. The Neocon dreams are being replaced by pragmatic policies, driven by 2004 reelection considerations. In the last few weeks we have seen:
1. An admission that the ............ 1525 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 13, 2003 7:05 AM
LET 'EM EAT WURST
By RALPH PETERS
July 13, 2003 -- MY heart breaks: Sniffing in Teutonic superiority, German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder has cancelled his Italian vacation!
Apart from the fact that Italy, the home of grace and beaut ............ 6709 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 13, 2003 3:58 AM
Under your "reasoning", Clinton would have had to apologize for Waco...
Didn't hear Clinton say anything like that.
"I made the decision. I'm accountable. The buck stops with me"- Janet Reno, after 76 people, including 25 children, were burned t ............ 353 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 13, 2003 3:09 AM
National House of Waffles
___________________
By MAUREEN DOWD
OP-ED COLUMNIST
THE NEW YORK TIMES
July 13, 2003
WASHINGTON - More and more, with Bush administration pronouncements about the Iraq war, it depends on what the meaning of the word ............ 4549 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 12, 2003 9:40 PM
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July 13, 2003
National House of Waffles
By MAUREEN DOWD
ASHINGTON
More and more, with Bush administration pronouncements about the Iraq war, it depends on what ............ 4690 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 12, 2003 8:14 PM
What's amazing, here, is how similar the Bush and Clinton and Nixon apologists are. Exact same techniques.
There was no caveat in Bush's speech. Bush was making a statement, in the most formal and public place a President can, and backing it by his wo ............ 990 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 12, 2003 7:08 PM
Bush Team United Iraq Front Unravels
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Use of flawed intelligence opens a Pandora's box
By Michael Moran
MSNBC
Friday 11 July 2003
The familiar drip, drip, drip of a brewing political scandal echoes thro ............ 9694 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 12, 2003 2:37 PM
Rascal, as you know, Bush was in office from late Jan 01...so was in office for 8 1/2 months before 9-11.
There are ample warnings for the previous 10 years about Al Qaeda and other terror groups, and what their plans were.
Did you pay attention ............ 1103 characters
Subject: Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
Posted On: Jul 12, 2003 2:37 PM
Beware Wars of Altruism
By DAVID RIEFF - commentary - Wall Street Journal
It seems increasingly likely that the U.S. will either lead an intervention in Liberia or direct one from behind the scenes, even if the main troop deployment comes from Lib ............ 8535 characters |
