To: michael97123 who wrote (106885 ) 7/21/2003 11:57:39 AM From: Bilow Respond to of 281500 Hi michael97123; Re: "I dont think this is classical guerilla war, what it is is the use of guerilla tactics. Difference is that there is not much national support for this route. " Well our side is getting incredibly bad press then. Today's news is that there was a 10,000 size demonstration against us, our soldiers had to fix bayonets, but it didn't disperse until the clerics said that they should go home. And the clerics say that we should be out of town by 3 days from now. Or else. I don't see news reports showing demonstrations of 10,000 people demanding that the US stay in Iraq, or that we send more troops. Maybe they're going on, but the press ain't reporting them. For that matter, our death toll appears to be slowly but steadily rising, which is in contradiction to the concept that we're winning. Re: "Baath party has been discredited and its the remnants of these criminals along with fedayeen that are spearheading this as i see it now. " Then how come they are killing more and more of our soldiers? Some discreditation. Actually, I don't think that it's the Baathists that are necessarily responsible for what's going on. We've got troubles in places that are not Baathist strongholds such as Kurdistan and with the Shiites. One moment the Bushies say it's the Baathists that are feeding the flames, the next they say that Iran is interfering in Iraqi internal affairs (a case of the pot calling the kettle "black" if I ever saw one). Re: "The danger is that american actions can create more rebels so we have to be careful but not cut and run as some would have us do. " I don't think that this is possible. Morons on this thread were talking, before the war, on how much money we'd be getting by selling Iraq's oil (and using the money to fix the country). A lot of Iraqis are going to interpret that as "stealing our oil" no matter what policy we choose. And since the US insists on staying despite the repeated attacks and protestations by the Iraqi people, that's probably "proof" to a lot of Iraqis that our intentions are not honorable. It's one of those unfortunate cases where you can't win. -- Carl