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To: greenspirit who wrote (106894)7/21/2003 11:01:48 PM
From: Lou Weed  Respond to of 281500
 
Thank you for your considerate response.

<<Those who see our present struggle as a failure are for the most part defenders of Saddams regime.>>

Totally disagree Michael. I see our present struggle as something which was entirely predictable.....it was cited as almost inevitable numerous times by myself and other posters before the invasion ever started. I never once defended or never would support Saddam's regime. I can't think of one poster here who actually supported this regime....at least not that I've read.

<<The simple truth is, without our military engagement he would still be in power. He would still be torturing and killing the Iraqi people. To deny that reality, is to deny an obvious truth.>>

Entirely correct but not the issue that was being discussed. The issue was the credibility of the evidence put forth to justify the attack and the inconsistencies in our foreign policy if civil rights abuses become a justification.

<<Only in Iraq did the combination of things come together in order to give us the impetus to act. A madman had the wealth and resources to build nuclear or biological weapons, he had shown he was willing to use them against those who opposed his reign of power, he had threatened a vital area of the world, he had threatened his neighbors, attacked a soverign nation, and created human atrocities against his own people.>>

Again you are correct in saying this however you are incorrect in saying "only in Iraq". Substitute North Korea here and take out "attacked a sovereign nation" and in my opinion you have a much more substantive statement. This becomes clearer as each day passes!

<<That, combined with his unwillingness to disarm in accordance with U.N. mandates>>

Very difficult to justify when the largest benefactor of our foreign aid is in non-compliance with numerous UN mandates.

<<Our priorities in foreign policy change, and with that change, hopefully, comes a closer alignment with our values as a nation.>>

Again I repeat....where were our values when we supported him while he was gassing his own people?? Put whatever political slant you want on it but it's a fact that we can't deny. Values don't change.....administrations and their idea of what OUR values should be, unfortunately do.

MON.