To: GST who wrote (106956 ) 7/21/2003 6:01:52 PM From: marcos Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500 More than 'national ' security, amigo ... we're not far from big nuke bases in the state of Washington, a near-miss could land on our shack here, even a direct hit would wipe us out .... this is vitally personal security we speak of here There are two possibilities with the Kim individual - he has a degree of rationality in his psychosis, or he does not .... if he does, he will no doubt notice the absence of an attack in progress on him at this time, and his hurry will be posturing ..... if he does not, there may well be more risk than reward in talking with him in any manner, than in refraining from doing so, lest he twist your words like John Cavanaugh just did with mine a few posts back .... in any case, such talks are better open than closed, because when open you get what he says on record, and your own statements on record .... witnesses, mah man, always have witnesses for the dicey stuff There are two possibilities with the PNAC neocon bunch - they can suddenly demonstrate a degree of maturity, or they can remain through talks with NK the ranting four-year-olds they have been in re the Iraq matter .... if the former, they will extend a cordial invitation to open talks, whether with other parties present or the discussion published verbatim, doesn't matter that much, both are open .... if they're going to stay with the yer with us or yer agin us my daddy's got more supreme court justices than your daddy crap, you don't want them talking to anybody, let alone some tinpot dickhead like that Kim It is not out of the question that on the US side there may still be in the State department a few individuals remaining uninfected by the juvenility of the PNAC doctrine, if so that would be great .... i can't see them agreeing to go behind closed doors in this circumstance though, can't imagine good reason for that .... in any case, i think it most likely that either the chinese or russians, or both, can send adults to the table ... and you really do want an adult presence in a kindergarten, they're the ones who make sure the place doesn't burn down