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To: michael97123 who wrote (107165)7/22/2003 4:09:33 PM
From: Chas.  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Mike we are not alone in our Iraqi efforts....although some would have you think it is just us.

Coalition of the Willing
CBC News Online

Here's the list:

Countries that are offering military support

Afghanistan - may allow coalition forces to use its airspace.

Albania - offered 70 soldiers for non-combat roles.

Australia - committed 2,000 troops, planes and ships.

Britain - committed 45,000 troops, planes, tanks and ships.

Czech Republic and Slovakia - offered 360 soldiers to help in case of chemical or biological attack.

Denmark - offered to send military personnel.

Hungary - hosts a U.S. base where Iraqi exiles are training for possible postwar administrative roles.

Italy - offered use of military bases.

Japan - offered assistance with postwar reconstruction and peacekeeping.

Latvia - waiting for parliamentary approval to deploy a few troops.

Poland - offered troops for non-combat roles.

Romania - offered use of its airspace and committed more than 200 non-combat experts.

Spain - allowed Washington to use two of its military bases and offered various combat jets.

Turkey - prepared to open its airspace for U.S. warplanes but will not allow them to access to air bases.

Other supporting countries

Azerbaijan, Colombia, El Salvador, Eritrea, Estonia, Ethiopia, Georgia, Iceland, Korea, Lithuania, Macedonia, the Netherlands, Nicaragua, the Philippines and Uzbekistan.

Behind-the-scenes countries

Bahrain - sent a frigate and troops on Gulf Co-operation Council mission to defend Kuwait. Allowing use of bases for U.S. troop buildup.

Belgium - allowed movement of troops and materiel from U.S. bases in Germany to port of Antwerp en route to the Persian Gulf; will allow overflights.

Bulgaria - approved U.S. use of military airport and airspace, dispatching 150-member Bulgarian non-combat unit. Stationing of up to 18 coalition aircraft and 400 U.S. troops.

Canada - although Prime Minister Jean Chrétien said Canada would not back the U.S.-led attack on Iraq without UN backing, Canadian warships are stationed in the Persian Gulf with the purpose of protecting allies.

Croatia - allowing refuelling stops by U.S. transport aircraft.

Diego Garcia - hosts U.S. military bases. These bases have been massing army equipment for marine and army brigades designated for Kuwait.

Djibouti - prominent U.S. ally in the war on terrorism.

Egypt - keeping Suez Canal open to U.S. and allied warships en route to Gulf.

France - allowing use of its airspace under treaty obligations, but no direct participation.

Germany - ruled out any participation, but pledges unhindered use of airspace and access to U.S. and British bases in Germany.

Jordan - allowing U.S. troops to be stationed within its borders.

Kuwait - bulk of the U.S. ground contingent is based in the Kuwaiti desert.

Oman - more than 2,000 U.S. military personnel are stationed in Oman.

Qatar - approximately 3,500 U.S. military personnel, as well as 300 British troops stationed in Qatar. The mobile Central Command ("CentCom") used in "Internal Look" is located in the country.

United Arab Emirates - U.S. refuelling tanker aircraft operate from the country's Al Dhafra base.



To: michael97123 who wrote (107165)7/22/2003 4:12:11 PM
From: Rascal  Read Replies (6) | Respond to of 281500
 
Who's Unpatriotic Now?
By PAUL KRUGMAN


Some nonrevisionist history: On Oct. 8, 2002, Knight Ridder newspapers reported on intelligence officials who "charge that the administration squelches dissenting views, and that intelligence analysts are under intense pressure to produce reports supporting the White House's argument that Saddam poses such an immediate threat to the United States that pre-emptive military action is necessary." One official accused the administration of pressuring analysts to "cook the intelligence books"; none of the dozen other officials the reporters spoke to disagreed.

The skepticism of these officials has been vindicated. So have the concerns expressed before the war by military professionals like Gen. Eric Shinseki, the Army chief of staff, about the resources required for postwar occupation. But as the bad news comes in, those who promoted this war have responded with a concerted effort to smear the messengers.

Issues of principle aside, the invasion of a country that hadn't attacked us and didn't pose an imminent threat has seriously weakened our military position. Of the Army's 33 combat brigades, 16 are in Iraq; this leaves us ill prepared to cope with genuine threats. Moreover, military experts say that with almost two-thirds of its brigades deployed overseas, mainly in Iraq, the Army's readiness is eroding: normal doctrine calls for only one brigade in three to be deployed abroad, while the other two retrain and refit.

And the war will have devastating effects on future recruiting by the reserves. A widely circulated photo from Iraq shows a sign in the windshield of a military truck that reads, "One weekend a month, my ass."

To top it all off, our insistence on launching a war without U.N. approval has deprived us of useful allies. George Bush claims to have a "huge coalition," but only 7 percent of the coalition soldiers in Iraq are non-American — and administration pleas for more help are sounding increasingly plaintive.

How serious is the strain on our military? The Brookings Institution military analyst Michael O'Hanlon, who describes our volunteer military as "one of the best military institutions in human history," warns that "the Bush administration will risk destroying that accomplishment if they keep on the current path."

But instead of explaining what happened to the Al Qaeda link and the nuclear program, in the last few days a series of hawkish pundits have accused those who ask such questions of aiding the enemy. Here's Frank Gaffney Jr. in The National Post: "Somewhere, probably in Iraq, Saddam Hussein is gloating. He can only be gratified by the feeding frenzy of recriminations, second-guessing and political power plays. . . . Signs of declining popular appreciation of the legitimacy and necessity of the efforts of America's armed forces will erode their morale. Similarly, the enemy will be encouraged."

Well, if we're going to talk about aiding the enemy: By cooking intelligence to promote a war that wasn't urgent, the administration has squandered our military strength. This provides a lot of aid and comfort to Osama bin Laden — who really did attack America — and Kim Jong Il — who really is building nukes.

And while we're on the subject of patriotism, let's talk about the affair of Joseph Wilson's wife. Mr. Wilson is the former ambassador who was sent to Niger by the C.I.A. to investigate reports of attempted Iraqi uranium purchases and who recently went public with his findings. Since then administration allies have sought to discredit him — it's unpleasant stuff. But here's the kicker: both the columnist Robert Novak and Time magazine say that administration officials told them that they believed that Mr. Wilson had been chosen through the influence of his wife, whom they identified as a C.I.A. operative.

Think about that: if their characterization of Mr. Wilson's wife is true (he refuses to confirm or deny it), Bush administration officials have exposed the identity of a covert operative. That happens to be a criminal act; it's also definitely unpatriotic.

So why would they do such a thing? Partly, perhaps, to punish Mr. Wilson, but also to send a message.

And that should alarm us. We've just seen how politicized, cooked intelligence can damage our national interest. Yet the Wilson affair suggests that the administration intends to continue pressuring analysts to tell it what it wants to hear.

nytimes.com

And another thing, Michael.
I disdain your practice of mocking posters in 3rd party posts. Take on Jacob directly if you like. It appears immature and cowardly to diminish him while posting to others.

And politics aside, your skill in argument and analysis are tiers below his. In your particular sneer about his perceived "fears" in Alaska, I find your deep seated anxieties regularly evident in your panic posts. Perhaps it is your own nervousness that induces you to take such a cheap shot at a valuable FADG poster.

Rascal @lookingfogiants.com