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To: Richard S who wrote (431290)	7/22/2003 4:05:48 PM
From: PROLIFE	Respond to of 769670

It is not all relative...if it is... then so is your life ,so if someone takes you out, please do not sue them.

To: Richard S who wrote (431290)	7/22/2003 4:18:32 PM
From: DuckTapeSunroof	Respond to of 769670

Interesting yardsticks: "The immunological view. This view sees human life as beginning when the organism recognizes the distinction between self and non-self. In humans, this occurs around the time of birth." "The neurological view. Our society has defined death as the loss of the cerebral EEG (electroencephalogram) pattern. Conversely, some scientists have thought that the acquisition of the human EEG (at about 27 weeks) be defined as when a human life has begun. This view has been put forth most concretely by Morowitz and Trefil (1992). (This view and the ones following would allow mid-trimester abortions)." "The ecological/technological view. This view sees the human life as beginning when it can exist separately from its maternal biological environment. The natural limit of viability occurs when the lungs mature, but technological advances can now enable a premature infant to survive at about 25 wks gestation. (This is the view currently operating in many states. Once a fetus can be potentially independent, it cannot be aborted)." >>> And as most famously expressed in Roe v. Wade, a S.C. decision that laid the groundwork for it's own eventual roll-back of the earliest date at which States may intervene in a woman's decision about abortion... as the Roe decision's three traunches depend upon the medical definitions of when a fetus may be regarded as 'viable', a date that will be inevitably be pushed earlier by technological advances. "The integrated physiological view. This sees human life as beginning when it has become independent of the mother and has its own functioning circulatory system, alimentary system, and respiratory system. This is the traditional birthday when the baby is born into the world and the umbilical cord is cut." >>> You left out the most traditional definition for 'when is a baby accorded whatever legal rights exist for humans, albeit not adult humans.' >>> Throughout the ages, such legal decisions were informed by religious worldviews. From the viewpoint of religion, the question was phrased "when does the soul enter the body?" >>> With a soul, one was 'human'... without a soul, one was not. >>> And, on this one point (like 'how many Angels can dance on the head of a pin') religions differed in their views, and, over time, religions sometimes changed their views. >>> For most of the history of the Catholic church (until quite recently), the soul was considered as a matter of religious doctrine to be emparted into the body at the time of birth. Therefore, rights and obligations of 'humanitity' began at birth. This was a common view for many religions. >>> Other religions have had different opinions on this... some aboriginal societies, for example, believe that one became 'human' only at puberty... or at some other significant right of passage.