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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Red Heeler who wrote (431297)	7/22/2003 4:01:13 PM
From: sea_biscuit	Respond to of 769670

Well, a certifiable chickenhawk saying that two dead American soldiers is no big deal. What's new?!

To: Red Heeler who wrote (431297)	7/22/2003 5:11:20 PM
From: Raymond Duray	Respond to of 769670

RUSH IS A NOT AS FAT A LIAR...... Well, Al Franken's book title may be in need of updating w/r/t Rush Limbaugh's girth. But Limbaugh's rhetoric is still as bloated as his belly used to be. Listen to this crackpot claptrap: and what I'm saying here is not intended to minimize the losses that we've suffered, nor is it an attempt to defend Bush or our policy. Note to Rush: You lying puke! That is precisely what you are attempting here. You are defending Bush by minimizing the losses. Sheesh, even a six year old can see through this deceit.

To: Red Heeler who wrote (431297)	7/22/2003 5:23:58 PM
From: Doug R	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 769670

The % of the US population in all these figures from limbaugh: 10 Americans die by drowning, and nine Americans die by fire in their homes. 14 Americans die by pedestrian accidents. 27 Americans die in falls. On average, 50 Americans a day are murdered. 118 die in auto accidents, and 25 people die from A.I.D.S. every day, on average. Yesterday, two Americans died in battle in Iraq. is MUCH, MUCH smaller than the % of US troops being killed in Iraq. Comparing raw numbers without taking into account the sample size is the stupidest way to attempt lying with statistics. limbaugh is a total idiot if he thinks his numbers mean what he claims.

To: Red Heeler who wrote (431297)	7/23/2003 1:43:21 PM
From: sea_biscuit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

The following statistics come from the Centers for Disease Control website: On a daily basis, on average, 10 Americans die by drowning, and nine Americans die by fire in their homes. 14 Americans die by pedestrian accidents. 27 Americans die in falls. On average, 50 Americans a day are murdered. 118 die in auto accidents, and 25 people die from A.I.D.S. every day, on average. [...] rushlimbaugh.com OK, let's say that one-fourth of the above is still not cause for alarm for Limbaugh and his idiothead fans. That is, about 60 deaths a day. This means that the 150,000 soldiers in Iraq will all be gone in less than 7 years... In reality, there are about 3 to 5 serious injuries for every death. So, the entire US army in Iraq can be immobilized in about 2 years and Rush "Chickenhawk" Limbaugh and his droids will still be saying that everything's fine!

To: Red Heeler who wrote (431297)	7/23/2003 2:12:05 PM
From: cnyndwllr	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 769670

So much for "compassionate conservatism." RE: Rush Limbaugh's statement that >>"The following statistics come from the Centers for Disease Control website: On a daily basis, on average, 10 Americans die by drowning, and nine Americans die by fire in their homes. 14 Americans die by pedestrian accidents. 27 Americans die in falls. On average, 50 Americans a day are murdered. 118 die in auto accidents, and 25 people die from A.I.D.S. every day, on average. Yesterday, two Americans died in battle in Iraq."<< Let me guess: Whose children, friends and family have NO CHANCE of coming home in a body bag? Who made sure that when the odds were even worse of getting killed or injured, THEY were NOT within sniffing distance of the fighting and dying? Who fails to realize that when you send real people into combat, YOU have the tremendous obligation to make sure that it's NECESSARY, JUST, AND THAT THERE IS A REASONABLE CHANCE OF SUCCESS? Who talks tough from the safety of their air-conditioned and pampered lifestyles? Yes, I know there are far too many choices from among Bush and his supporters, friends and cabinet and so I'll tell you. The polarizing, "they're stupid enough to believe any of the straw men I construct" and "I'm making millions off the damage I do by creating hatred and anger saying radical things that I don't even believe" man himself. And you're standing there with your mouth open and swallowing as fast as you can. The proper perspective is that we sent them, some of them are dying far from home that wouldn't have "drowned" or died in accidents and fires, and the importance of that is too great to be bandied about with "so what" statistics. I think you'd understand that on an intuitive level if you'd ever been in combat in a war zone, or if any of yours had come home as pieces of meat zipped in a body bag. What's really clear is that you should be ashamed for repeating such drivel.