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To: Ilaine who wrote (107202)	7/22/2003 5:55:09 PM
From: w0z	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

"I feel compassion for them, too." I doubt these women or their relatives share your feelings: "Iraqi exiles say Odai murdered at will and tortured with zeal, and routinely ordered his guards to snatch young women off the street so he could rape them." foxnews.com

To: Ilaine who wrote (107202)	7/22/2003 7:35:57 PM
From: epicure	Respond to of 281500

Thank you for saying that. I hate to see partying over death. Even when we want the deaths, and the people who have died are not "good" people, still, celebrating the deaths of other humans seems wrong. I am glad the Iraqis have one less thing to fear, but I cannot celebrate violent death.

To: Ilaine who wrote (107202)	7/22/2003 8:14:11 PM
From: michael97123	Respond to of 281500

Point taken. What about Hitler in the bunker? Or the nazi entourage who poisoned their own kids that day. I guess the violent death should not be celebrated but the inability of those dirtbags to do harm to other innocents should. Anyway I am happy they are gone. Mike

To: Ilaine who wrote (107202)	7/23/2003 5:05:32 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

CB, I'm an aliterate person, and Shakespeare was inflicted on me against my will [and I refused to learn the stuff], but on hearing of the killing of Saddam's offspring, I wondered what their mother feels about it all. And, thinking of their murdered brothers in law and all the others involved, how like a Shakespearian tragedy the whole thing is - all I remember of Shakespeare's plays is that everyone ends up dead and somebody does a soliloquy. And, how little we have progressed in 400 years [or something like that], except that we have our mayhem on a grander scale. There weren't many airliners and 110 storey buildings full of many thousands of people to be destroyed in an hour in Shakespeares day. Nor nukes. Nor billions of people lining up for tribal feuds. But the story lines seemed similar. Who's King Lear in all of this? Is there a Hamlet? Cherche la femme? There's little celebration for me in getting Saddam's tribe. But, my thanks to the soldiers who confronted Saddam and his thugs and have, apparently, succeeded in killing two of the top dogs. I'd say it's a good thing. But, unfortunately, there are plenty more like them. Gerry Adams and his mates are still going for example - but at least their American cash flow has reduced. While having them dead has its merits, I wonder whether it wouldn't have been better to take them to Den Hague and line them up for a multiyear trial like Milosevic is suffering. Now there's some cruel and unusual punishment. Being kept in prison for years, neither guilty nor innocent but with fleets of lawyers and journalists and associated carrion feeders pecking away at your eyes and bones. I suppose they'll stop when the cash flow stops. It's the flow of money, not justice and law, which propels the legal system. Having a Hague trial might dissuade such thugs better than a quick shootout at the OK Corral. I bet they dread a court. The USA seems very worried about such a beast getting hold of some of their own and has refused to comply [while expecting others to do so]. Good riddance Uday [especially]. Mqurice PS: Why does everyone write Shakespeare? His name obviously was from "shake a spear" as a threat, hence, Shakespear. The extra e is similar to Dan Quayle pointing out that potato should have an e on the end [or maybe it was tomato]. capitalcentury.com Dan was obviously educated and up on Shakespear, and Quayle has an e on the end [ignoring the misspelling of Quail, which is obviously in reference to the bird]. No wonder e is the most common letter in English [and American] - peopl put an e on the end of all sorts of wordes.