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To: GST who wrote (158726)	7/23/2003 2:22:48 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 164687

I'm all for globalization actually. Its funny about IBM though. When I was in college at Berkeley in the 80s, IBM used to hire students for these 6 mos gigs so I knew a lot of people who went to work there. One consistent theme I heard from people was that IBM managers didn't like american workers. IBM had hired all these guys from all over the world, and if you were say, a new chip designer or hardware engr and you got a college job under one of IBMs managers who came from Korea or somewhere, it was hell apparently. Also, there was overt discrimination against asian americans (who were born here). I'm actually ashamed to admit that for a time, I actually believed that since americans lived the "good life" so to speak, that our engineers might not be as good as someone who came here from China and went to Berkeley, etc. At this point I can see the truth which is that this is just a bunch of BS that gets perpetuated at the low levels of these big companies, and fortunately I think congress and most people in management these days actually remember when this sentiment was unquestioned. Now the fact that it is IBM, AGAIN who is making noise about moving their business offshore just grates on me. Oracle took down IBMs database division (including capitalizing on products that IBM invented) with a US technical team. This is just technology jobs I'm talking about, not US production which really did have quality issues at one point.