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To: Alighieri who wrote (172398)7/23/2003 3:56:38 PM
From: i-node  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573433
 
See my response to Ten.

Clinton never does ANYTHING that isn't to save his own skin.



To: Alighieri who wrote (172398)7/23/2003 5:20:44 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573433
 
Maybe you ought to hear what Clinton had to say yesterday.

I thought Clinton was an incompetent untrustworthy liar.....you are not going to start listening to him now are you? <<ggg>>


My sentiments exactly. Between the spin from Bush's and the rest of the right, they can't remember from one day to the next who they've trashed. For over a year now, Clinton has been evil incarnate but now that he has said something good about Bush, we're suppose to listen to him but only on this one point. The rest of what he says is trash.

They best find some WMD soon before the right spins itself into oblivion!

ted



To: Alighieri who wrote (172398)7/23/2003 11:15:48 PM
From: tejek  Respond to of 1573433
 
<font color=blue>Did you see this........I swear they are overweaned boy scouts. Little billie thomas called the Capitol Hill police because the Dems wouldn't play with him and his posse. And then he cried about it today. This is a disgrace......how immature can they get?!!

We need to get through this year fast and get some new leadership in Congress and the WH. I can't wait for evolution to work its magic!<font color=black>

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Thomas Apologizes, Rangel Accepts




Wednesday, July 23, 2003

WASHINGTON — House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Bill Thomas (search) was humbled to near tears Wednesday as he addressed the House of Representatives, admitting he used poor judgment last week when he called Capitol Police to evict protesting Democrats from a committee library.





"I learned a very painful lesson on Friday. As members you deserve better judgment from me and you'll get it," said the usually prickly and supremely confident California representative.

"Moderation is required. For the remainder of my time, in this, the people's House, I want to rededicate my efforts to strengthening this institution as the embodiment of what is best about us. I need your help. And I invite it," he said.

Thomas' remarks followed a controversy that swelled Friday when a routine committee meeting ended in a partisan clash that spilled onto the House floor. Democrats objected to changes Republicans had made overnight in a pension bill, and filed into the adjoining committee library to consider their next move.

Thomas said he called the sergeant-at-arms after "a breakdown of order and decorum" in the committee room. He said he then asked the Capitol Police to ask Democrats to leave the library and congregate in their caucus room. Democrats still dispute the order of events.

Nonetheless, after his weepy apology, a sustained standing ovation greeted Thomas, who retreated to a corner out of camera range. There, he was warmly received by members from both sides of the aisle.

His remarks were followed by New York Rep. Charlie Rangel (search), ranking Democrat on the panel, and one of those asked to leave the library.

"Let's see if every committee and every member can say that in this House we are going to respect each other no matter how much we differ," Rangel said. "Whether we respect each other is what I think those that we leave this Congress to will respect us for."

One observer in the chamber described "a lot of love in the room" following the speeches. But House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., did not stand after Thomas' speech and didn't seem to share the warm fuzzies of the moment.

"While I'm sympathetic to the generosity of spirit that it took for him to make those statements, and I respect the fact that he did that, it didn't mean that I had to stand up and cheer," she said at a press conference following the speeches.

Thomas apologized for calling the authorities, but he made no mention of the dust-up in the committee that grew worse when Rep. Pete Stark (search), D-Calif., who unsuccessfully tried to object to the motion to approve the pension fund bill, called a back-bench committee Republican a "wimp" and "a fruitcake."

Stark denies the charges, but said he may have used language unbecoming of a congressman. Fox News confirmed through five sources that Stark also called Thomas two names too vulgar to print.

Rangel wasn't in the room when that happened but conceded that Stark may have spoken out of line.

"He may have whispered it in his ear, but that would be improper no matter where it was done, and certainly in the Congress it would be improper."

The round of sincerity all came on a day when Democrats repeatedly delayed House business by requiring a slew of time-consuming procedural votes -- actions that are doing little to improve relations between Democrats and Republicans in the House.

"That's not the end of it in terms of where we go from here," Pelosi said, describing how the House would face a "week from hell" until the committee revisits the pension legislation.

Rep. Scott McInnis, R-Colo., the target of Stark's insults on Friday, agreed all is not over. He said he would file a complaint with the ethics committee if Democrats pursue claims against Thomas.

"This guy needs professional help," he added, noting Stark's history of using demeaning terms to describe Republicans.

House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer, D-Md., released a statement saying that "one statement does not comity make."

But Rep. Rob Portman, R-Ohio, sponsor of the pension bill that became caught in the dispute, said he hoped Thomas' remarks would lighten the mood.

"It should lower the temperature," Portman said.

Fox News' Brian Wilson and The Associated Press contributed to this report.



To: Alighieri who wrote (172398)7/23/2003 11:26:36 PM
From: tejek  Respond to of 1573433
 
<font color=green>The Republican governor of Maryland is closing the state due to deficits.......another casualty of Bush economics. Its hard to believe just three short years ago, things were good, people were happy, most had jobs, peace prevailed upon land.........three years later everything is going to hell in a hand basket. Even the number of people dying on the freeways has reached a 12 year high. And the Reps. think things are better than ever!

What have we done? <font color=black>

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Deficit-Wracked Maryland Calls It Quits

ANNAPOLIS, MD—Citing mounting debt and a decline in tourism dollars, the state of Maryland will shut down for good on August 31, Maryland Gov. Robert L. Erhlich Jr. told reporters Monday.

Above: A Baltimore-area interstate.

"I would like to sincerely thank everyone who has ever lived in or visited the great state of Maryland," Erhlich said at a press conference held on the steps of a boarded-up Capitol Building. "You are the people who have made this such a wonderful place. Maryland will live on in the fond memories of each of you, even as we liquidate the state's assets."

Ratified as the seventh state in 1788, Maryland has been a favorite haunt for a devoted group of fans. In addition to being the home of the Annapolis U.S. Naval Academy, Maryland is the birthplace of such notable Americans as surveyor Benjamin Banneker, singer Billie Holiday, baseball legend Babe Ruth, and former Supreme Court Justice Thurgood Marshall.

In spite of its rich history, Maryland has struggled with mounting debt since the '90s, as tourism and tax revenues failed to keep pace with rising expenses. The state has for years fought what many insiders considered a losing battle.

"We had a good run, but we just can't do it anymore," Erhlich said. "The bad economy, increased spending on homeland security, and an increasing Medicaid bill were the final nails in Maryland's coffin. We are simply losing too much money to keep the borders open."

Erhlich promised that Maryland would not shut down operations until the last day of August, giving longtime fans of the Old Line State an opportunity to visit.

"We wanted to give people a chance to say goodbye," Erhlich said. "Since the rumors of a state shutdown began, I have received thousands of letters and small donations from people all over the country. This means so much—more than you can ever know—but despite all the love and devotion, I'm afraid it's just not going to happen."

Erhlich told the crowd that he did everything he could to keep Maryland open, but in the end no effort proved successful.

"I made across-the-board budget cuts, restructured all of our social services, effected hiring freezes, and emptied out the state's rainy-day fund," Erhlich said. "The last decade has just been exhausting. As much as I love Maryland, I can't say that I'm going to miss the 18-hour days trying to keep this state afloat."

Erhlich said he received offers to buy out Maryland, but the bids were rejected.

"We had a deal with New Mexico that could have saved us, but it fell through," Erhlich said. "The things [New Mexico Gov.] Bill Richardson wanted to change when he took over went against everything Maryland is all about. Rather than severely compromise our state, we decided instead to pass."

On Sept. 1, the government of Maryland will disband and all state employees will be laid off, a situation Erhlich calls "extremely regrettable."

"Many of these workers have been in Maryland all their lives," Erhlich said. "These folks are like family to me. In fact, some actually are family. The people are why we held on to statehood as long as we did."

Although current residents of Maryland will be allowed to stay in the state until they can arrange to relocate, they must do so without government services. Experts predict the state will become a vast vacant lot within five years.

In order to offset some of the debt accrued over the last few decades, Maryland is selling its assets, announcing that "everything must go" before the state closes. The most sought-after items to be auctioned off include the original first draft of "The Star-Spangled Banner," written by Maryland native Francis Scott Key.

The rights to Maryland's state flag, bird, and motto are also being sold to the highest bidder.

"Secret [brand antiperspirant] has put in a substantial bid for our motto, Fatti maschii, parole femine, which means 'Manly Deeds, Womanly Words,'" Erhlich said. "I also think that Nevada might buy the rights to our state sport, jousting. When we sell the rights to our state song, 'Maryland, My Maryland,' that's when it's going to hit me that it's finally over."

For many longtime fans of Maryland, the closing strikes a deep emotional chord.

"It's just a shame," said Gene Tupper, a resident of Maryland since 1955. "I don't think anyone will really understand what it was like to visit the historic Antietam National Battlefield or walk along beautiful Chesapeake Bay back in the prime years. I guess all great things have to end sometime."

Many fans of the state said they hope someone purchases and revitalizes Maryland before it falls into disrepair.

"I don't want what happened to Oregon to happen here," said Jane Renski, a Maryland resident. "We drove by the place a few years ago and it was totally abandoned— really eerie. The whole state was infested with raccoons."

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