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To: American Spirit who wrote (432394)7/23/2003 9:57:13 PM
From: d.taggart  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
at least bush did not wave his finger and call niger "that country",losers never quit whining,clinton came aboard with both houses, then he lost them both,,,,,,,,lol, once the country figured out what dems were up to,siding with those who would destroy us,shame on u!



To: American Spirit who wrote (432394)7/23/2003 10:09:50 PM
From: Hope Praytochange  Respond to of 769670
 
washingtonpost.com
A Knock on the Door Leads to Nightmare
Iraqi Man Provided Shelter for Hussein's Sons

By Kevin Sullivan
Washington Post Foreign Service
Wednesday, July 23, 2003; 12:05 PM

MOSUL, Iraq, July 23--Nawaf Zaidan Nasiri answered the front door of his elegant mansion 24 days ago, and greeted a nightmare.

Standing there, he told his neighbors Tuesday, were the two sons of Saddam Hussein, Qusay and Uday, Iraq’s second- and third-most wanted fugitives, asking Zaidan to repay years of privilege and favors they had doled out to him.

"I answered the doorbell and there they were, right in front of my face," Zaidan told his neighbor, Mukhlis Thahir Jubori. "They asked to stay in my house and I could not refuse them. This is a disaster for me."

In an interview today, Thahir said Zaidan told his story yesterday while sitting in a U.S. military Humvee, about two hours after the bodies of the Hussein brothers and two other men were removed from the charred remains of Zaidan’s house.

In one of the fiercest firefights since the end of the Iraq war, nearly 200 soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division blasted the house with missiles and grenades Tuesday morning until Hussein’s two most ruthless enforcers were dead.

The death of the Hussein brothers caused soldiers to break out cigars and caused jubilation from the Iraqi desert to the Oval Office. But the episode posed a difficult dilemma for a 46-year-old man, suddenly in the glare of the global spotlight, who had made a career out of hanging around the Husseins, according to several of Zaidan’s neighbors and long-time friends.

"Nawaf was always bragging that he was a good friend of Saddam’s family, and he was a friend of theirs," said Thahir, a tribal sheik who lives in a house just around the corner from Zaidan’s, and described himself as best friends with him.

Thahir said his friend was typical of the opportunists and mid-level hangers-on who populated the world of Hussein and his sycophantic Baath Party. In a lengthy interview, Jubori and another neighbor, a Muslim cleric who asked not be named, said Zaidan’s comfortable life, including his opulent home, were essentially slop from the Hussein trough.

They said Zaidan was known as a businessman, who specialized in import-export work. But mainly, they said, his business was loyalty to Hussein’s family, whose officials kept him supplied with government contracts and goodies in return.

In Mosul, they said, that turned Zaidan and his brother, Salah Zaidan Nasiri, like others like them across the country, into well-to-do people who could brag about their contacts with Hussein -- and back up those boasts with nice cars and a beautiful house.

"They gave him everything, including that house," the cleric said.

Thahir said he recalled being at Zaidan’s house about two months ago when members of Hussein’s extended family arrived. He said there was talk about them giving 200 million dinars, about $140,000, to Zaidan to oversee construction of a new mosque.

Thahir said that was strange, because the Hussein government had already been vanquished and was hardly in a position to build new mosques. He said the money was more likely payment for some service Zaidan had provided -- or perhaps, he said, it was payment for using his home as a safe house in the future.

About the only time Zaidan’s scheme to associate himself with the regime backfired, the cleric said, was this spring, when Hussein’s family became fed up with Salah Zaidan bragging, falsely, that he was a cousin of Hussein. In Hussein’s dictatorship, such boasting was grounds for prison time, the cleric said. Salah Zaidan was sentenced to seven years, but was freed after less than a month.

"They became a little too powerful," the cleric said. "Saddam doesn’t like it when people start getting too much power."

Zaidan could not be reached for comment today. A woman who answered the door at Salah Zaidan’s palatial home in a neighborhood across the city said neither of the brothers were there and declined further comment.

Around Nawaf Zaidan’s house, which was still surrounded by coils of razor wire and scores of soldiers today, his neighbors said they were surprised, but not shocked, to hear that the Hussein brothers were found in his house.

Nobody recalled seeing anyone suspicious at the house, but they said Zaidan had been acting different lately. Normally, they said, Zaidan would wait until the brutal desert sun had set, then set out plastic chairs on the sidewalk in front of his house every night. Zaidan, Thahir and other men from the neighborhood would drink sweet tea and Pepsi and chew over current events. Then just over three weeks ago, Zaidan stopped putting out the chairs.

"I went over to his house and asked him, is everything okay? Can I come in?’" Thahir said. "And he said no. He said his wife’s relatives were visiting and they were very busy."

About four days ago, Thahir said, a strange BMW showed up at the house; it still sat there yesterday, its tires and windows shot out in the U.S. assault. Thahir speculated that the car belonged to the other two men found dead in the house, who are believed to be one of Hussein’s bodyguards and Qusay’s 14-year-old son, Mustafa.

After Tuesday’s firefight, Thahir said he looked out his window and saw Zaidan and his 19-year-old son sitting in a Humvee parked in front of his house, which is just around the corner and out of sight of the main firefight.

He said he brought out a pitcher of water and the U.S. soldiers allowed him to give it to Zaidan. He said Zaidan seemed calm, in good health and he noticed that he was not wearing any handcuffs.

"I said, ’What did you do? What happened? They took four dead bodies out of your house,’" Thahir said. "And he said, ’Really? They are dead? Uday and Qusay were with me in the house.’"

Thahir said Zaidan told him that he and his family had gone out for breakfast early in the morning to a place called the Casino, a recreational area near the Tigris River filled with picnic tables. He said the U.S. soldiers arrived there and asked him to come back to his house, Thahir said.

At least three other neighbors said they saw Zaidan leave early in the morning and return with his son at about 9 a.m. They said soldiers arrived shortly after that, and took Zaidan away when he refused to let them enter the house. The firefight erupted after he was gone.

U.S. military spokesman said they were acting on a tip. They said a "walk-in" came to them Monday night with information about the Hussein brothers’ location. They have not identified the informant, but they said the $15 million bounty on the Hussein brothers’ heads will be paid.

Thahir and the cleric, who has known Zaidan since he was a boy and was friends with his father, said they strongly suspect that Zaidan was the informant. They said the $15 million temptation was probably too much to resist after the two fugitives had been hiding out in his house for more than three weeks.

"Who else could have done it?" the cleric said. "Why was his family out when they came? Why were there no handcuffs? He had Uday and Qusay in his house -- why is he not arrested or dead?"

Military officials said they didn’t take anyone into custody in the raid. They had no comment on whether Zaidan was the informant.

Thahir said that most people here would probably applaud Zaidan if he were the informer. He and the cleric said they were sick of Hussein and his "cruel" sons, and that they didn’t begrudge anyone the reward.

They said they weren’t even sure anyone would claim the brothers’ bodies for a funeral. Their mother, Sajida, lives in Iraq and is not a fugitive. But they said she might be too afraid because a funeral for the two men could spark deep emotions in an already tense nation.

They said there could be some revenge from Hussein loyalists. And among the hundreds of people gathered on the sidewalk in front of the still-smoking hulk of Zaidan’s house could be heard muttering anti-American threats and vowing that Saddam would return to avenge his sons.

"You will see," one hissed.

Nashwan Khazraji, 39, who has been living for four months across the street from Zaidan, who he said "was always pretending he’s the cousin of Saddam Hussein." Even though everyone was sick of the boasting, he said, the deaths of the Hussein brothers in Zaidan’s house was "a painful situation."

"As a Muslim, I can’t accept the killing of another Muslim in front of me," he said. "At the same time, Uday and Qusay gave us nothing. We have been saying they should get rid of them so things can get better in Iraq. But not this way."

Special correspondents Souad Mekhennet and Naseer Mehdawi in Mosul contributed to this story.



To: American Spirit who wrote (432394)7/23/2003 10:16:05 PM
From: Hope Praytochange  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
washingtonpost.com
Election Officials Finish Verifying Names in Calif. Recall Effort

By William Booth
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, July 24, 2003; Page A03

LOS ANGELES, July 23 -- County election officials completed their verification of signatures today, virtually assuring that Gov. Gray Davis (D) will face a recall vote in the fall once those results are certified by the secretary of state.

But confusion reigned as Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante (D) said he will not issue a call for a two-part ballot that would ask first whether Davis should be recalled and second who should replace him if he is ousted. Instead, Bustamante said he would leave the question of how to choose a possible Davis successor to an independent commission and the California Supreme Court's interpretation of the state constitution.

The high court could rule that if Davis is ousted by voters, his successor would automatically be Bustamante. That would inevitably be challenged by GOP hopefuls who want onto the ballot. Or the state supreme court could order the fall ballot to include a list of candidates for Davis's job if he is successfully recalled. That is the ballot everyone has been expecting to see.

The latest twist comes as California Secretary of State Kevin Shelley tonight received the final signatures from the petitions gathered to put Davis to a recall vote.

A Los Angeles Times survey concluded that recall organizers had at least 1,105,802 valid signatures. It takes 897,158 to qualify the recall for the ballot. If recall proponents have gathered 110 percent of the signatures required, which appears likely, Shelley must immediately certify that the recall election proceed.

Then it is up to Bustamante to set a date for the election within 60 to 80 days, possibly as early as Sept. 23. Bustamante said he would pick the date immediately, but would leave the question of how to choose a possible Davis successor to the Commission on the Governorship.

That commission has never met, and its chairman, state Senate President Pro Tem John Burton (D), said, "Up until three days ago, I didn't know there was such a thing."

The confusion over the ballot places greater pressure on possible candidates to replace Davis. The only announced candidate is Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), but supporters of actor Arnold Schwarzenegger say the film star is mulling a run, as is former Los Angeles mayor Richard Riordan.

Democratic leaders have rallied to Davis's side and vowed that no leading Democrat would run in a recall election, but some party officials have been quietly discussing the possibility of a "caretaker" candidate to put on the ballot so that if Davis is removed, a Democrat could finish out his term.

On a morning radio interview, Davis said, "I said from the very beginning if the recall got serious, I would get serious. I've had to fight for everything in my life, and trust me, I've had more political obituaries written about me than you could possibly imagine."



To: American Spirit who wrote (432394)7/23/2003 10:36:18 PM
From: PROLIFE  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
there is no issue, except the one where Americans are fed up with the Democlaptrap. THat will show up in the next election...so you just keep on digging...