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Politics : WHO IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT IN 2004 -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Glenn Petersen who wrote (3628)	7/24/2003 6:05:10 PM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10965

Glenn, Re: The only way that they can maintain their long-term viability in the U.S is to continually field candidates at the Presidential level. With all due respect, that is nonsense. As a founding member of the Green Party in California, I can assure you that your views here are not widely shared. The Green Party is an insurgent organization that does best at the local level where many if not most environmentally sensitive decisions are taken in our nation. To suggest that a grandstander like Ralph Nader really represents the soul of a Green is a stretch. He may articulate a lot of the dissatisfaction that many of us have with the two wings of the Corporate Party, but he's clearly not all that he's cracked up to be. It was last October that Media Whores Online published some very damning information about Nader and the national organization controlling the Green's agenda. At the time, the Green Party of Minnesota was running a native American attorney named Ed DeGaa whose platform could not be distinguished by an environmental lawyer from that of Paul Wellstone. MWO called foul. They were convinced that DeGaa was a straw man candidate fielded by the Naderites in the Green Party to attempt to destroy the Wellstone re-election effort. From all I've seen of the episode, I concur. MWO offered as an interesting bit of speculation that Ralph Nader had been making regular appearances at Grover Norquist's Americans for Tax Reform Wednesday afternoon luncheons. As you probably are aware, this is a a gathering of some of the snakiest, most deceitful, most self-serving snarky serpents on the planet. And Nader is a welcomed guest. Do red flags go up here? Purportedly, George Bush won Florida in 2000 by 537 votes. Nader took 95,000 Florida voters away from the environmentalist who wrote "Earth in the Balance" in 1992. I'm, of course, speaking of Al Gore, who even alarmed me with certain anti-development sections of that book. For Nader to lie that Gore and Bush were the same on the environment is pure libel. Note that Nader also siphoned 6,000 votes away from potential Gore voters in New Hampshire, throwing that states four electoral votes to Bush. Nader needs to be examined with a very prosecutorial eye by the progressive community. He may well be a traitor in our midst. And for those who are unaware of Nader's very spotty record, they should realize that he never did take a stand against the illegal and immoral aggression against the native peoples of Vietnam when he first became a public figure with his essentially consumerist tome, "Unsafe at any Speed". That may be exactly what real progressives need to write on Nader's political tombstone. I think all Greens need to realize that they are very likely being played for chumps by the malignant Rovian Right, and are being swindled by acts of agents provocateur in their midst.