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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (70992)	7/25/2003 11:46:56 AM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

"No. I don't see that you can get to "absolute". It is more remarkable that you can't even understand the premise. The premise is that there is an ideal that people would agree on not circumstances. The circumstances you gave are not ideal, so everyone has their perspective on them and, in fact, it changes with distance, time, and new circumstances. "Remember the Aztec..." Yes, and they did not view the situation as "the unjust killing of innocents with malfeasance," They did not say lets find innocent people and slaughter them with malfeasance simply because that is a good thing to be doing....you and I did. Their ancesters don't see it that way either. We weren't their but there is plenty of evidence to show that they had a different view of it than "the unjust killing of innocents with malfeasance." So saying they viewed murder as good is a misapplication of the term we are discussing. War...Why do you think we called them "Nips" and "Japs" and "Gooks?" Because we didn't view them as innocents and vica versa. We went a step further and gave them dehumanizing labels to hedge our bets. You have to at least show that you understand the premise Laz... You are a smart guy but you are arguing something different. The unjust killing of an innocent person with malfeasance" (murder) is a bad thing. No. You can't. Remember the Aztec, Maya, and those cannibals? I think they disagree with you. They see situations differently but not the premise. Any one you can ask would agree. I think if you could ask them they would too, but that is not provable.