To: Glenn Petersen who wrote (3638 ) 7/25/2003 1:57:02 PM From: Raymond Duray Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 10965 Glenn, Re: Bob Novak -- What Novak did, by acting as a conduit for some vindictive White House officials in outting Ambassador Joseph Wilson's wife is both unconscionable and illegal. Of course, with the extreme disinterest in justice in Ashcroft's DoJ, I'm not holding my breath that he'll hold Novak's feet to the fire. The partisanship demonstrated in defense of a lying slimeball of a pResident is unprecedented. ********* W/R/T the Polling Report -- The smart money, such as Chuck Todd or Vaughan Ververs at Hotline informed listeners at C-SPAN (including me) that the only poll that matters is the "re-elect" poll. The "job" poll or the "favorable" poll have not historically proven to predictive, i.e. these numbers are fluff. Here's the Polling Report's re-elect survey pollingreport.com "If George W. Bush runs for reelection in 2004, in general, are you more likely to vote for Bush or for the Democratic Party's candidate for president?" Currently, Bush at 46%, Any Democrat 42%..... Considering the margin of error, we're essentially in a dead heat. No wonder Bush is so enthusiastic about black box voting: whatreallyhappened.com How To Rig An Election In The United States Inside A U.S. Election Vote Counting Program The New Zealand Media blows the lid off of US vote fraud! Local copy How the Back-door was discovered in the voting machines! Local copy How the system integrity problem was discovered. Local copy Bald-Faced Lies About Black Box Voting Machines Local copy Diebold Magic? "Surprise upsets" went to the GOP. Origins of American Vote Fraud The Greatest Cover-Up Of All: Vote Fraud In America Pandora's Black Box: Did It Really Count Your Vote? Voter fraud, again! How George W. Bush Won the 2004 Presidential Election VOTE FRAUD AND THE BANKRUPTCY OF THE UNITED STATES If the elections are rigged, are you really responsible to pay off the government's debts? The foreign press starts to pick up the US vote fraud scandal The US media proclaims itself the "watchdog on government abuse". Yet on the subject of rigged elections they remain quite silent. The US electronic voting system is a total fraud. By design, it can produce election results to order, totally bypassing blackboxvoting.com A Winning Machine, by Thom Hartmann: alternet.org ****************"It doesn't matter who votes, it matters who counts the votes." --attributed to Joseph Stalin, USSR (also Katherine Harris, Jeb Bush and voting machine entrepreneur, Senator Chuck "landslide" Hagel.)