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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (3781)7/25/2003 4:43:49 PM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 793570
 
Jay and the Anti-Americans

Washington Prowler

LOOK WHO'S TALKING
The Senate Democratic Caucus was up in arms earlier this week, complaining to reporters on Capitol Hill that Sen. Jay Rockefeller was not the source they should be going to for comments about the just-released 9/11 Report and the purported White House "misuse" of intelligence data to buttress arguments for taking down Saddam.

Senators Tom Daschle and Harry Reid , the Senate's Democratic leader and whip respectively, were both bad-mouthing Rockefeller, and let it be known in a meeting of all Democratic press secretaries that they, along with Sen.Bob Graham, were to be the only conduits for official Senate Democratic statements on either issue.

"This is the first time this White House has made a misstep we can capitalize on, and Rockefeller is out there soft-peddling the stuff like it is no big deal," says a Senate leadership staffer. "If Bush emerges from this unscathed, Rockefeller deserves a lot of the blame from our end."

Daschle and Reid had both told party caucus members that the past ten days have given them the best chance at wounding the White House. They asked for a coordinated communications effort, in line with their House counterparts and the Democratic National Committee. But then Rockefeller, who serves as ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, went off the reservation and told reporters that before there was any serious finger-pointing, the committee had to take in all the information. That was not the spin Daschle and company wanted.

Rockefeller's comments, however, were nothing next to those from former President Bill Clinton 's on Tuesday's "Larry King Live," which left the Democrats on Capitol Hill almost speechless. Clinton, who said he had bombed Iraq in 1998, in part because of the threat of Saddam's nuclear program, took virtually all the air out of the Democrats' plans to continue attacking the White House's handling of uranium purchase intelligence used in the State of the Union Address.

"He had to have done it for Hillary. They are up to something," says a Howie Dean presidential campaign staffer in New Hampshire. "We can't believe our party's leader would stab us in the back unless there was something more to it. Maybe he's setting us all up for something else. Or he thinks by clearing the field of a national security topic, it will be easier for Hillary to enter the race and focus on domestic policy. Whatever, we can't believe he did it."

As for Rockefeller, a leadership staffer for Republicans said the word on the Hill was that Rockefeller was aware of what his party was trying to do to the White House, but chafed at taking orders from Daschle and Reid, particularly when the senator from West Virginia was basically told to steer all interview requests to higher-ups in the party.

CHEESY CHUCK
Sen. Chuck Schumer has a lot of explaining to do about his rationale for blocking federal judge nominees. After holding back the nominations of four Bush nominees to the federal bench, all of whom were rated as qualified by the American Bar Association, Schumer trumpeted the fact that he and the White House had cut a deal to fill several open federal judgeships in New York state.

Schumer announced the deal without giving the White House the chance to announce it, a protocol no-no. "It's the kind of glory hound behavior you have to accept in dealing with him," says a White House legislative staffer.

But if the White House is upset about Schumer's jumping the gun, they won't say, in part because they believe they have caught Schumer in a double standard that undercuts his arguments about many Bush judicial nominees.

Dora Irizarry is a Republican nominated by the Bush White House to a seat on the United States District Court for the Eastern District of New York. She has been fully backed for the slot by Schumer, in part because she a New Yorker, and in part to annoy New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer, who beat Irizarry in a race for that office, and who has clashed with Schumer for -- get this -- Spitzer's desire to be in the spotlight.

At any rate, Irizarry recently got her review from the ABA, and a majority of the ABA's review committee found the judicial nominee "not qualified" for the federal bench. Still, Schumer is backing her.

"He can't do it for long," says a Democratic Senate Judiciary staffer. "Otherwise, how can he support a sub-par nominee while refusing to back qualified nominees?"

That's exactly what the White House would like Schumer to have to explain.

FORTNEY'S COMPLAINT
House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Bill Thomas's tearful mea culpa on the House floor Wednesday was forced upon him by Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert, who told the prickly pol from California that if he didn't end the simmering story, he was risking his chairmanship.

Thomas, who is famous for his temper, and who has been known to stalk out of meetings in his own private office, angered Democrats when he ordered the House sergeant at arms to call in the Capitol Hill police if Democratic House Ways and Means committee members refused to re-convene for the markup of a bill. Most Democrats had marched out of the committee room in protest, leaving Rep. Pete Stark to scream homophobic remarks at Republicans. Evidently he hates it when they call him by his real name, Fortney.

"It was all very embarrassing to us," says a House Republican leadership aide. "Hastert has been hearing from a number of Republican members that it has been increasingly difficult to work with Thomas. He's been a real pain in the ass, and this was just the last straw."

Thomas beat Illinois Rep. Philip Crane for the Ways and Means seat three years ago, upsetting some conservatives who disliked Thomas's brash style.

Thomas had refused to apologize for his actions, even in a closed door meeting with the Republican caucus. But on Tuesday, according to Hill sources, Hastert laid down the law and told Thomas to get with the program.

For all of the glee some Republicans took in seeing Thomas humbled, they were reminded that there are worse personalities in their midst. While many Democrats welcomed Thomas's weepy tale of woe, Nancy Pelosi, who herself is facing increasing doubts about her leadership future, said the apology wasn't good enough.
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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (3781)7/25/2003 5:42:24 PM
From: Rollcast...  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793570
 
War Folklore
Don’t listen to the latest groupspeak.

July 25, 2003, 8:45 a.m.

nationalreview.com

Just as we migrate from Scott Peterson to Kobe Bryant and back to Jessica
Lynch, so too did the snowy peaks of Afghanistan bow out to the
sandstorm-induced pause in Iraq and that in turn to 16 words of the
president's speech. But amid all these expressions of fleeting American
madness, we need to carefully separate larger truths from the folklore that
our elite mob for the moment is mouthing. Here are a random five examples of
the current groupspeak that defy common sense.

1. Tens of thousands of troops deployed in Iraq represent an unacceptable
escalating and open-ended commitment of American blood and treasure.

It was never so simple as staying or leaving — inasmuch as we already had
been in Iraq for over a decade in a manner that had saved thousands of Kurds
and Shiites. Against the present cost of pacifying Iraq must be set a
half-generation and the $20-30 billion already spent to secure two-thirds of
the airspace of Iraq. Then there was the costly naval enforcement of the
U.N. embargo from the Gulf to the Indian Ocean — as well as years of prior
shootings and bombings along the way.

Add another decade's outlay of keeping 10,000 troops in Saudi Arabia — with
all the political risks of putting Americans in such a strange place.
Consider further the thousands of Americans stationed elsewhere in the Gulf
since 1991 to thwart Saddam Hussein. This three-week conflict, in other
words, marked the start of the denouement — not the first act — of a long,
costly engagement that began in 1991.

If, with the demise of Saddam Hussein — who was the original reason for our
aid to his weak and vulnerable neighbors — we can withdraw or at least
downsize from places like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Turkey, and the Gulf
sheikdoms, then a great deal of the present investment will represent a
transfer of expenses rather than an entirely new commitment. Unless we are
activating entirely new National Guard units or creating ex nihilo
divisions, some percentage of our costs for troops is static and previously
budgeted anyway — whether American soldiers are to be fed and housed in
Texas or in Baghdad.

The present task has a definable goal — leave with consensual government
established in Iraq — whereas the last twelve years really were open-ended
and led nowhere.

2. Iraq was a complete distraction from the war against terror.

This is a tired allegation made by a number of Democratic presidential
hopefuls, especially Senator Graham.

First, none of the oft-repeated and dire predictions — increased terror, an
inflamed Arab street, the fall of "moderate" governments in Jordan and
Egypt, a ruined Turkish economy, millions of refugees, thousands dead,
endless sectarian fighting, and other horsemen of the Apocalypse — have
followed from Saddam's ouster. Indeed, the end of Saddam Hussein has already
brought dividends in other areas.

Consider the following collateral developments in little over 100 days.
There is some movement in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Soon an American
military presence in Saudi Arabia will end. We already see a cessation of
cash rewards for suicide murderers; the death or arrests of terrorists like
Abu Nidal, Abu Abbas, and al Qaedists in Kurdistan; probable disruption of
Iraqi cash flows to terrorist groups based in Lebanon; Hamas worried in
Syria; democratic foment in Iran; and a growing sense that the United States
is not something terrorists wish to arouse.

The Democratic leadership needs to cease its embarrassing rants before its
last shred of credibility is lost. The pause was not a setback; the museum
attack was not a 170,000-icon heist because Americans were off in the
oilfields; Jessica Lynch really did go through hell and her comrades really
did die shooting. Despite the recent rants from some out-of-touch Democratic
congressmen, it is not wrong to kill mass murderers in a firefight. Indeed,
those Democrats should be reminding Americans that they are proud that the
Senate voted long ago to go into Iraq and to eliminate a fascist Baathist
state that had murdered tens of thousands.

3. The lack of tangible evidence of weapons of mass destruction undermines
the success of the war — and gives powerful ammunition to the Democrats'
criticism of Mr. Bush.

This would be true if there had not been ample reasons presented for going
to war — from Saddam's violation of the 1991 accords, his expulsion of U.N.
inspectors, his past history of invading and attacking his neighbors, his
connection with terrorists, and prior confirmation by the U.N. and the
Clinton administration of a continued Iraq WMD program.

There are also political problems on the horizon. If senators — who had
access to classified intelligence — voted to authorize the president to take
measures against Iraq and now object to the circumstances of our
(successful) intervention, then either their prior sanction or their present
objection is wrong: and they need to tell us which it is and why.

If President Clinton once authorized a four-day war because of Saddam's
non-compliance with past promises, and no subsequent evidence was adduced
that those stockpiles of WMD were in fact recovered or destroyed, then were
the Clinton administration and the U.N. wrong, or disingenuous, in their
belief that such weapons ever really existed?

And — putting all put aside WMD, curbing terrorism, and concerns over our
own security — is saving thousands of Iraqis any less humanitarian than
intervening in Liberia?

It will also be difficult for Democrats to say much about proliferation
elsewhere since they now allege that there was no real prewar evidence of
WMD in Iraq. So their current harangues will have the pernicious effect of
convincing us in the future to ignore accepted reports of enriched uranium
in Iran or undiscovered reactors in Korea. Why hassle sifting through tricky
intelligence reports when you will only be ankle-bitten later for acting on
purportedly fabricated evidence? Most Americans will instead shrug and say,
"No way: let the Europeans or the Japanese — not us — worry about Iranian or
Korean nukes."

The current conundrum is also predicated on two other shaky premises: that
evidence of WMD won't be found and that things in Iraq will get worse.
Neither is likely. American aid and oil revenue will bring more, not less
money, to the Iraq economy in the months ahead. Freedom grows sweeter, not
more bitter, to its new beneficiaries.

A year from now it is also probable that millions of unsavory Baathist
documents will have been cataloged and translated. The fate of the Hussein
tribe is becoming clear. Consensual government will be stronger. Those in
the know about Saddam's past crimes will become more talkative.

Finally, note that the purported communiqués from Saddam's guerrillas
repeatedly insist that America's intervention was based on lies and
falsehoods about WMD. In contrast, 25 million Iraqis are mostly silent on
the issue. Are Saddam's murderers, or his victims, the better allies in the
present debate?

The discovery of a single cache of weapons or the arrest or corpse of any
Hussein will, of course, soon put an end the entire pseudo-controversy — as
we are now just witnessing with late-breaking news of the dead epigones.

4. We have done lasting damage to international alliances and institutions.

Careful scrutiny reveals just the opposite: the U.N., NATO, the EU, South
Korea, and other bodies and nations are reexamining their own, not our,
behavior.

The U.N. is not debating leaving the United States or expelling us from the
Security Council, but in fact is reviewing its entire constitution: from the
exclusion of powerful nations like Japan, Germany, and India from the
Security Council to the nature of odious regimes that participate on
important commissions — such as that paragon of human rights, Libya.

The Belgians are worried about curtailing, not empowering their lunatic
courts. They want NATO headquarters to remain, not be moved to Warsaw.
Except for the temporary rise of the euro, the news from the EU is of
confusion, not lockstep anger at the United States. North versus South, East
versus West, Britain versus the Continent — all that reveals intrinsic
European fault lines not of our own making.

For all the present calumny, Mr. Blair still enjoys far more prestige and
admiration abroad than do Messrs. Chirac, Schroeder, Villepin, or Fischer.
And among the English-speaking nations, it is just as likely that Canada
will move closer to the Australian position vis-à-vis the United States than
vice versa. South Korea is keeping silent about its "sunshine policy" — and
suddenly quite worried about its anti-American demonstrations — as we ponder
our evolving new relationship.

In short, a new honesty and maturity are the real dividends of American
actions.

5. In a drive for global hegemony, America is crafting a new imperialism to
rule the world.

The trendy notion of America as a "hyperpower" is largely an artifact of the
aftermath of the Cold War. True, we enjoy unmatched military strength. Sure,
we spend more on defense than do the next ten or so nations collectively.
But that imbalance is not a reflection of a wish to dominate the globe, but
mostly due to the abject collapse of an empire that failed to do precisely
that — and the cleanup of the resulting detritus of Soviet interventions and
clients, from Serbia to Afghanistan to Iraq.

In terms of percentages of GNP, we are spending no more on our military
budget than we did through most years of the Cold War. Both at home and
abroad, the real story is just as often the abandonment, not the
construction, of military bases.

Our sin was mostly that we won the Cold War, kept active in NATO, and did
not disarm after the fall of the Berlin Wall. When one of two superpowers is
still standing, then ipso facto the survivor usually enjoys twice its former
relative power.



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (3781)7/25/2003 6:12:52 PM
From: michael97123  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793570
 
Hi Nadine,
From a formerly exasperated guy who spent a beautiful day down at the Jersey shore. My son sent this to me--not sure if its true but funny just the same. For non-new yawkers the NY Mets baseball team sucks big time and many vets have been traded and the remainder are waiting to find out my end July deadline. Anyway here it goes.

"Mets: Flighty response breaks tension"
Thursday, July 24, 2003

When it gets this close to the trading deadline almost everyone is caught up in the frenzy and becomes obsessed with who is getting whom. Even flight attendants can catch the trading bug.

On the Mets flight from Philadelphia to Montreal Tuesday night -- just hours after the Pirates had traded Kenny Lofton, Aramis Ramirez and Scott Sauerbeck -- there was an excited ruckus in the rear of the Mets charter.

One of the flight attendants came down and asked why they were so happy.

"We got Qusay and Uday," Al Leiter exclaimed.

"I'm sorry," the flight attendant responded, "I don't know baseball. Are they any good?"

The players broke up in laughter.

"It was hysterical," Mike Piazza said. "It spread through the plane in a nano-second."



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (3781)7/25/2003 8:34:55 PM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 793570
 
DAVID WARREN

Smelling blood

It would appear the 101st Airborne managed to pick off Uday and Qusay Hussein yesterday, in Mosul, Iraq. This is an item of news that is almost impossible to package as "a setback for the U.S." Good progress is certainly being made in the extermination of dispersed Saddamite opposition, and in the reconstruction of Iraq. Yesterday, as well, Sergio Vieira de Mello, the U.N.'s special representative, took the first step to recognizing the new U.S.-supported governing council as the legitimate government of Iraq.

For their hit in Mosul, the U.S. forces were working, as ever, with information provided to them by Iraqi allies who've been feeding them leads, at their own risk, since before the invasion. The Americans are often working blind. Even now, as we approach the second anniversary of 9/11, the CIA is desperately short of its own human agents in the field, and overly dependent on high technology to know what is happening.

This is the legacy of a catastrophic failure of nerve, the U.S. retreat from international responsibility over the previous two presidencies. The CIA was stripped of its ability to get down and dirty in dangerous, frontier environments; and hamstrung with debilitating rules and regulations, devised by sherry-drinking legal academics with no appreciation whatever of reality. It was somehow forgotten that the prevention of events like 9/11 itself ultimately depends on deadly accurate intelligence assessments, which can never be obtained without human operatives.

It never, ever makes sense to follow civilized rules when your enemy does not play by them. As Lee Harris has recently so cogently argued from the philosophical side, and Robert D. Kaplan and others have spelled out in practical detail, this is an ages-old issue in the defence of civilization itself. The enemies of civilization must be given no quarter; there can be no "rules" beyond the frontier; the purpose of engagement is not to win friends and popularity. It is instead to find and utterly annihilate the enemy -- in this case all those secular and religious "Islamists" dedicated to our own destruction.

There are no fine points of procedure, and excessive compunction about "collateral damage" is a surrender to the other side. The balance of terror must remain with us: those hesitating to take our side must learn that hesitation is fatal. Nor can we wait for the kind of evidence acceptable in a courtroom, before acting upon each threat. As long as civilization has existed, it has survived by doing the necessary against savages who threaten from its frontiers. It has engaged them there, in order to avoid being unable to engage them in the middle of Imperial Rome, or the middle of Manhattan.

This is unfortunately lost on a "liberal" media establishment which subordinates all commentary and reporting to the desire to score cheap political points against such as George W. Bush and Tony Blair. Flood-the-zone coverage of picayune issues is itself a threat to our survival. For the choice before the people of America is not between a Bush and a Gore; it is between Bush and real monsters; between us and people dedicated to our destruction.

And the power of the enemy does not depend on his strength, but on our weakness; not on his malice, but on our restraint. As Daniel Pipes explained yesterday, paraphrasing Lee Harris:

"Al Qaeda destroys airplanes and buildings that it itself could not possibly build. The Palestinian Authority has failed in every field of endeavour except killing Israelis. Saddam Hussein's Iraq grew dangerous thanks to money showered on it by the West to purchase petroleum Iraqis themselves had neither located nor extracted."

And the ability of such enemies to regroup against a West trying to defend itself, now depends on the media's ability to hog-tie the West's legitimate political leaders.

Shortly after 9/11, Robert Bork, the great American jurisprude, told me he feared for the future, even at the moment America was rallying to her own defence, when he read what was being published in the New York Times. The paper was already gearing up to oppose whatever the Bush administration did; its former editor Howell Raines was already telling his colleagues, "I can feel in my bones a new Vietnam."

Now, the reader should know that in newsrooms across North America, editors consult the New York Times before deciding which foreign and national stories should be given prominence, and which should be ignored. That one paper alone has power far beyond its own readers to create media sensations over trivial things. And public opinion can be effectively swayed when the media give a consistently false view of what is important, subordinating the large reality to their small vendettas and "gotchas".

Mr. Bork said he could feel in his own bones the media taking the stomach out of the American will, and predicted that "a couple of years down the road", we would be getting the sort of nonsense that I am reading every day in the papers now -- with their "Vietnam effect" on public opinion.

That is why small, but highly visible pieces of good news are crucial just now -- of which the killing of Saddam's sons would be an example. At a moment when the "liberal" media are smelling blood, let us pray it turns out to be their own.



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (3781)7/26/2003 10:32:20 AM
From: JohnM  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793570
 
But he is also espousing some quite irrational ideas and has shown himself impervious to any form of evidence or argument against them.

Well, if that were true, it would hardly make Jacob unique on the FADG thread. The list is longer than I'm prepared to type right now.

Jacob's assertions, for instance of Bush as fascist are paralleled only by the assertions that Bush should go to Rushmore. Much more evidence for the former than the latter. I give you Ashcroft.