To: AK2004 who wrote (19937 ) 7/26/2003 11:58:45 AM From: TigerPaw Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 21614 I don't have the time or inclination to rehash every detail leading up to the war. If you go back and research Powell and Blix's presentations before the UN they will reviel: 1) Iraq reported the chemicals and biologicals destroyed exactly as claimed in the first half of the 1990s. They showed the toxic waste dumps where they were destroyed. BLix and the inspectors looked at the dumps, agreed they were full of the remains of chemical weapons and stuff, and the only thing they kept reporting was that they could not determine how many weapons were poured into these pits as it was just a bunch of mixed toxic sludge by this time. Sadam claimed to destroy chemical weapons but refused to provide details Complete myth, there just weren't many details to show. Instead the administration just kept repeating the mantra "disarm" and indicating that the absense of evidence was proof of existence. 2) Powell's presentation to the UN was a nearly complete fabrication. He may have had genuine concerns at some point, but he was brought into the oval office where he was told in no uncertain terms that the attack would proceed and he could either get on board or resign. Powell decided that he liked prestigous jobs for him and his son more than he cared about integrity. So he showed pictures of mobil labs, and of weapon plants, and of nuclear facilities, only when they got on the ground none of those things were what Powell said they were. It was all lies, much like the yellowcake. 3) Other than the deaths involved in the uprisings that George Bush Sr. instigated and abandoned in 1991, there hasn't been many in Iraq in the last decade. Saddam had already consolodated his power and the remaining killings and torture were about average for a Middle Eastern dictator. The real war crime was beginning a war under false pretenses. The tens of thousands of Iraqi dead were civil rights violations because the war did not have to be. Any of the stated goals could have been accomplished through international means without the near complete destruction of the country. The only reason that sanctions didn't work earlier is that nobody was trying very hard to make them work. Biggest mistake? First of all, Bush doesn't make mistakes. Bush sits on the couch eating pretzels until someone tells him what to do this day. In this case Rove wanted a war to provide a compelling news story for the 2002 elections, Rumsfeld and his crowd wanted to redo their failure in 1991 only better, Wolferitz,Perle, and Rice wanted to make the middle east safe for Ariel Sharon, and Cheney wanted oil, lots and lots of oil. All of these people told Bush to go to war, but none had a complete and compelling case so they made one up. TP