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To: kingfisher who wrote (24754)	7/25/2003 11:29:59 PM
From: Bearcatbob	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 206093

kingfisher, If the US was to leave Iraq now what do you thing would happen? And then - after you tell us what you think would happen - tell us how that would increase Iraqi oil flow. I can't wait to hear the scenario that would lead to increased Iraqi oil.

To: kingfisher who wrote (24754)	7/26/2003 1:32:12 AM
From: energyplay	Respond to of 206093

Re: House of Saud upset with 9-11 report - Too bad for the Saudi's delicate feelings. They are more than welcome to try a stunt like cutting off the oil. There are quite a few factions in Washington who have identified the Saudis as THE PROBLEM and would be more than happy to bust the country up into pieces - they have already figured out who gets what - Hasemites (Jordan) get the holy cities back, our friends in the emirates and Kuwait get the oil regions. Easily done from bases in Iraq... These factions are slowly bringing around the majority of the Foreign Policy establishment that isn't on the Saudi payroll, and more than a few who are or have been paid by the Saudis (big grin here, Saudis now surprised that friends don't stay bought when you attack their country, unlike some of the people they buy off. Saudis have been told very directly to tone down the Wahabi anti-Americanism or face (unknown) consequences. If you want to read more on the anti-Suadi view, see Ralph Peters articles - he's a point man for some of the more aggresive policy factions. Standard script is for US bases to leave SA, Saudis to turn down rhetoric, and everyone pretends that 9-11 was an isolated incident while going about business as usual. While that happens, the US sees if Iraq can be stabilized. Lots of positve progress, in spite of biased media accounts. Also Iran may possibly turn in our favor - that would REALLY upset the Saudis. End game options range into the extremley nasty - like how to restore oil wells in a radio active environment. I will close with a quote from Cato which is becoming popular with certain factions - for a time Cato ended all his speeches with this phrase. Rome was threatend by Carthage - eventually Hanibal attack wtih elephants.... The phrase was - Carthage delenda est. Approximate translation, assuming context... ...[and my further opinion] is That Carthage Must Be Destroyed. The Roamns sacked Carthage, and sowed the fields with salt so nothing would grow. No one lives there, it's an archelogical site.