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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (71002)7/28/2003 11:18:36 AM
From: one_less  Respond to of 82486
 
"Ah! But if the definition of murder is so broad that it can include or exclude whatever a person or society wants, it becomes operationally meaningless. If it can be narrowed such that cannibalism and human sacrifice can be excluded at will, nothing is left."

Right. And this is the world as we know it. Not an ideal place to live. Let me know when you find a better one. I can pack in seconds.

"And if the western definition of murder is not a societal construct, but an "absolute", why did those people not know it?

How do you know that they didn't? I believe they did. They viewed some justifications for what they did but they had a concept of wrongness about unjust killings or they would have killed anybody at any time who stood in the way of them getting what ever they wanted down to and including a drink of water.

You have only demonstrated the same "situation...situation...situation...that was present in the Early USA when slavery was being justified by society. People knew what the ideal "be kind to others" meant. However, they were able to "view" their situation in a way that allowed them to put Africans in chains and under the whip. Did they know about the ideal? Yes, and this is most likely why hundreds of years later you don't find support for that behavior among their ancesters.