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To: Mark Adams who wrote (36559)	7/26/2003 1:30:32 PM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

"BUSH LIED" -- George Soros says in N.Y. Times ad....... NEW YORK (Reuters) - Billionaire philanthropist George Soros is running full-page ads in major U.S. newspapers on Sunday challenging the honesty of the Bush administration's case for waging war in Iraq (news - web sites). The ads in The New York Times, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, and the Houston Chronicle, are titled, "When the nation goes to war, the people deserve the truth." A dozen statements made by President George W. Bush (news - web sites), Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites), Secretary of State Colin Powell (news - web sites) and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld making the case for war are reprinted and described as either exaggerated or false. The statements center on claims about Iraq having weapons of mass destruction and large quantities of poison gasses. The Hungarian-born Soros, 72, emigrated to the United States from Britain in 1956 and built a fortune as a financier. He is founder of a network of philanthropic organizations active in more than 50 countries that focus on education, public health, human rights and economic reform. The ads, estimated to cost about $185,000, were co-sponsored by U.S. philanthropists Dorothy and Lewis B. Cullman. "Both George Soros and Lewis Cullman have been deeply concerned about the deception used to justify the war in Iraq," said Michael Vachon, a spokesman for Soros. "They believe their fellow citizens should also be concerned and took out these ads to move them to action." Bush has defended the case for war, saying he is confident that weapons of mass destruction will eventually be found in Iraq and that criticism of intelligence about Iraq's military capabilities amounts to quibbling. Message 19149192 Message 19148263

To: Mark Adams who wrote (36559)	7/26/2003 3:15:02 PM
From: smolejv@gmx.net	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

I like this lady... the-scientist.com ... and what she's doing too; re catalysts - I guess the simplest would be to copycat the citric cycle... but then again, that's what the nature's been doing for eons, that's how we get our sugars etc ... Oh, you mean we need no ATP, sugars & such, we need pure unadulterated protons, I mean hydrogene. I see... why? ... etc

To: Mark Adams who wrote (36559)	7/26/2003 7:53:40 PM
From: TobagoJack	Respond to of 74559

Hello Mark, the Platinum group of metals (Platinum, Palladium, Rhodium) can absorb, store and carry 900 times its own weight in hydrogen, besides acting as catalyst in reactions, plus they are rarer than gold, and in great demand by Chinese/Japanese consumers as jewelry material, is being developed to be same in India, and only a few large publicly traded companies plus Russia (and some very small producers in other countries) digs for them. Best of all, there are no substantive central bank overhang. Once every so many months there are announcements on some discovery that cuts the use of platinum and palladium use in this and that, some of the discoveries actually actualizes, however, every so often new uses are being discovered for PGMs as well. If we are to be optimist, we may hope that fuel cells will not require platinum at all, but new longevity and cold medications absolutely require platinum :0) Chugs, Jay