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To: Jim McMannis who wrote (172666)	7/26/2003 4:41:50 PM
From: i-node	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574591

When I say Clinton bubble...it's more in a reference to what happened on his watch rather than what he did. I, too, would stop short of "blaming" the Clinton administration for the collapse of the bubble. Bubbles do that. Always. Every time. HOWEVER, an argument can be made that the administration contributed to the runup on false pretenses by constantly trying to "tout" the great economy in an effort to make it look better than it was. Clinton was a lucky beneficiary of the business cycle; Bush 41 and 43 were both unlucky in this regard. The tax cuts Congress enacted have, and Alan Greenspan, thankfully, saved us from the economic disaster that could have followed.

To: Jim McMannis who wrote (172666)	7/26/2003 4:41:50 PM
From: i-node	Respond to of 1574591

When I say Clinton bubble...it's more in a reference to what happened on his watch rather than what he did. I, too, would stop short of "blaming" the Clinton administration for the collapse of the bubble. Bubbles do that. Always. Every time. HOWEVER, an argument can be made that the administration contributed to the runup on false pretenses by constantly trying to "tout" the great economy in an effort to make it look better than it was. Clinton was a lucky beneficiary of the business cycle; Bush 41 and 43 were both unlucky in this regard. The tax cuts Congress enacted have, and Alan Greenspan, thankfully, saved us from the economic disaster that could have followed.

To: Jim McMannis who wrote (172666)	7/26/2003 7:41:26 PM
From: Road Walker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574591

Jim, re: When I say Clinton bubble...it's more in a reference to what happened on his watch rather than what he did. Of course if your running a campaign then you point out all the good stuff Or the opposite. re: the crash What crash? re: Now Bush is being a little more proactive. Trying to create growth? I thought that was a bad thing under the "Clinton bubble"! Is it a good conservative thing and a bad democrat thing? re: pumping to help temper the crash Again, what crash?!? re: If we didn't have appreciating home prices in the last few years to make us feel better then what would we have? If we didn't have PC, Internet and wireless telecom growth for the previous 10 years, what would we have had? You take it where you can get it. re: much of which in the name of cleaning up poor US policy for many years. Be specific. re: Bush's best hope is to let the economy show signs of recovery and then get money to shift out of Real Estate back into the rest of the economy. "Let the economy"? Clinton let the economy run it's course, in a good conservative fashion. Made government smaller, balanced the budget. Bush is pumping (your word) it like a cheap porno movie, increasing the size of the government, imposing tarriffs, increasing spending domestic and overseas, cutting taxes to create a huge deficit for future generations... He is the most fiscally liberal President we've had since Roosevelt (when we actually needed it); a fiscal nightmare. It's a shame that folks can't look past the talk show, divisive, self-serving rhetoric, to see what the records really are vs. their ideological model. Clinton/Bad Bush/Good Most folks are buying the massive political marketing hype, without looking at the actual actions/reactions. The world isn't as simple as a Rush Limbaugh sound bite. It requires some thought. A blow job is just a blow job, three good American kids died in Iraq today. Balance that. John