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To: Ron who wrote (3057)	7/26/2003 10:40:19 PM
From: xcr600	Respond to of 20773

I thought we invaded Iraq to end this crap, not perpetuate more of it-- Four US soldiers charged with abuse of Iraqi POWs 50 minutes ago Add Politics - AFP to My Yahoo! WASHINGTON (AFP) - Four US soldiers serving in Iraq (news - web sites) have been charged with abuse of Iraqi prisoners of war and are awaiting a decision on whether they will face a court-martial, a defense official said. The charges mark the first time US personnel have been formally accused of mistreating Iraqi prisoners since the beginning of the US-led invasion of Iraq on March 20, the official said. The names of the soldiers have not been released, but they are reported to belong to a military police unit that helped guard prisoners at Camp Bucca, near the southern Iraqi city of Umm Qasr, last May. "They have been charged with Article 32, which is basically like a grand jury in civilian terms, based on an investigation into allegations of mistreatment of POWs," Lieutenant Commander Nick Balice, a spokesman for the US Central Command, told AFP. The charges are based on an incident that occurred at the POW camp on May 12, the nature of which Balice would not disclose. But other sources indicated the soldiers, two of whom are said to be women, are alleged to have used unwarranted physical force against the prisoners. Under Article 32 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, a commander of the unit where the alleged infraction occurred must have -- together with military prosecutors -- a hearing to review evidence and recommend a further course of action, according to defense officials. "Certainly, there are several things that could happen," Balice explained. "It could be dismissed. It could be some other form of disciplinary action. Or it could a court-martial. It all depends on the determination." He said no date for the hearing has been set. The announcement of the charges came three days after the human rights group Amnesty International issued a scathing report, saying it had collected many allegation torture or ill-treatment by US-led coalition forces in Iraq. Iraqi inmates held at various US-run detention centers are subjected prolonged hooding, sleep deprivation, restraint in painful positions -- sometimes combined with exposure to loud music and bright light, according to the document compiled by Amnesty monitors who have been working in Iraq since late April. The monitors pointed, among others, to the case of 39-year-old Khreisan Khalis Aballey and his 80-year-old father, who were arrested at their home on April 30. Aballey was hooded and handcuffed and made to stand or kneel facing a wall for nearly eight days while he was being interrogated, the report said. He suffered from sleep deprivation because a bright light was placed next to his head while distorted music was booming from lounspeakers, according to the document. His knees bled, and one his leg swell to the size of a football, while his father was held in the cell next to him and could hear his son's screams, the report said. "Many of the coalition soldiers and military police engaged in law enforcement do not have basic skills and tools in civilian policing or to be aware of the law they are supposed to be applying," said Curt Goering, one of Amnesty's monitors. story.news.yahoo.com

To: Ron who wrote (3057)	7/26/2003 11:53:21 PM
From: Raymond Duray	Respond to of 20773

Ron, Re: As far as I can tell from first scan of the 9-11 Report, it appears we should have taken out...... Uh, perhaps you haven't been following this story closely and for a long time as many of us have. Here's some resources that are "must reads" as far as I'm concerned: wanttoknow.info whatreallyhappened.com cooperativeresearch.org 911timeline.net gregpalast.com And locally: Subject 53722 *************** Based on hundreds of hours that I've spent researching 9/11, my conclusion is that the best way to make sure that the American public is protected from further acts of terror is to impeach, indict and incarcerate most of the Bush Cabal. Then remove JCS head Richard Myers and force him to tell the nation why NORAD stood down on 9/11.