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To: RealMuLan who wrote (36585)	7/27/2003 1:58:11 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Respond to of 74559

Yiwu, take a look at some libertarian ideas. SWCC is a load of hui. libertarianz.org.nz It has all been tried before. It will end in tears. Socialism is repression, bureaucracy, government edict, confiscation and suffocation, however you fiddle around with the nomenclature. Sure, SWCC might be less horrific than Mao's version or Stalin's and better even than Gorby's and will no doubt overtake the heading downhill New Zealand style. But it's still a bankrupt philosophy based on the individual as a mere sheep to be fleeced for the benefit of those running the show. SWCC is just acceptance that the poverty in socialist China of the old style was pitiful and the communist revolution a failure. Okay, so it's not as bad now with SWCC. It's still nothing hot. But it might even be better than the suffocating regimes of the eurozone and wouldn't have to do very well to improve on the socialist mayhem we've been creating in New Zealand. I might even go and live in China if things keep declining here. My mother was born there so maybe that makes me Chinese enough to have residency rights. Mqurice

To: RealMuLan who wrote (36585)	7/27/2003 2:41:13 AM
From: BubbaFred	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Yiwu - What's the tax rates in China, for individuals and businesses? By the way, there are more funny gibberish in that link: ----------------------------------- << "The right system and environment count the most in any economic development." I agree, and Socialism With Chinese Characteristics is working very well, thank you very much. "Excessive political interference is the mother of all problems to economic progress and human endeavours." I also agree. But what is "excessive"? The distortion of free trade through hundreds of billions of dollars in protectionist duties and subsidies are not excessive? You can't have it both ways.>> --------------------------------- << He Jin, stop babbling about GDP which is something that you obviously don't understand much about.If the total goods and services produced by 25 people in Taiwan in one year amounted to $10,000, on a per capita basis, each person would get $400. Similarly, if 325 people in China produced $100,000's worth ("economy of scale"), each person would get $307. Now, who has more money in his pocket? How large a population in a country does not matter. What matters most is the country's economic system and government policies to harness the people's will power and incentive to produce. The right system and environment count the most in any economic development. Excessive political interference is the mother of all problems to economic progress and human endeavours. >> --------------------------------- << World's second largest market for what ? US is the world's largest market for toxic drugs, cocaine, heroin, marijuana, amphetamine, you name it. US is also the world's largest market for hand-held weapons such as pistols etc. since almost everyone can buy a gun anytime. Those zombie Americans love to shoot and kill. Japan is the world's largest market for porno stuff, those horny Japs!>> ---------------------- <<You forgot one thing, MA, and that is the power of the sovereign govt. to tax. Yes, every single dollar of FDI planted in China, and every single dollar of income made in the China market, will be subject to taxation, with the proceeds to benefit the Chinese society. It is a beautiful thing, to see all that revenue going to great use. And the foreigners are forewarned that there will be equal treatment before the law, if they evade taxes. McDonalds has already been warned that it is a crime not to give cash register receipts. >> -----------------------------

To: RealMuLan who wrote (36585)	7/27/2003 12:27:26 PM
From: BubbaFred	Respond to of 74559

Armstrong acts for Franco-American reconciliation PARIS, July 27 (Reuters) - Lance Armstrong's fifth Tour victory was the hardest by far but also the sweetest in terms of his popularity on the roads of France. The Texan, a personal friend of U.S. President George W. Bush, had not exactly been France's most-loved athlete in recent years and was booed on the climb to the Mount Ventoux last year. But despite Franco-American tensions over the Iraq war, there was no animosity whatsoever from the crowds this year and fans seemed won over by Armstrong's struggling and suffering in this year's race. The American, who made himself available to sign autographs and always spoke a few words on French television at the end of stages, said he had felt the difference. "There were a lot of American flags this year. They scream and it's a French person -- Allez Lance! "It's a little bit strange, but it happened many times," he said. "There were lots of Americans on the side of the road and you can hear them too. I can't complain on what kind of support it is, it's much appreciated." Armstrong, who has a bodyguard during the Tour, said that he was glad to be able to help improve the peculiar relationship between the two countries. "In the times of Franco-American tension, it's great that Americans come to this country and stand on the side of the road, go to hotels and restaurants, drink their wine, visit and support the country because of the great riders," he said. Armstrong had been awarded the infamous lemon prize as the most unpleasant rider in the bunch by Tour photographers two years ago. This time, he received the orange prize as the nicest rider to work with, a spectacular change in his perception by both fans and the French media. Updated on Sunday, Jul 27, 2003 11:35 am EDT sports.yahoo.com --------------------------------------- Actually not so simple. It takes year long planning and hard work practice and preparation, as well as strategies. Not individual either. There are nine to a team, and Armstrong had eight team mates to help him overcome the arduous task. He is just better overall than any of the others in his team. If he had failed, or had an accident that prevented him to win the tour (the plan not working), he would have worked for another team member who has the best chance to win it.