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To: John Chen who wrote (158798)7/27/2003 6:55:28 PM
From: Cyprian  Respond to of 164684
 
Brent,re:"seed of Abraham?".

john, the word of God is quite clear as to just who are the seed of abraham. not those of the flesh, or of the law, but only those which are of faith. not just any sort of faith mind you--faith in Jesus Christ.

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. --Galatians 3:28-29

Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness. Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham. --Galatians 3:6-9

Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed. --Romans 9:6-8

Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.. --Galatians 3:16

Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision. For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh. --Philippians 3:2-3



To: John Chen who wrote (158798)7/27/2003 7:10:47 PM
From: Cyprian  Respond to of 164684
 
john,

whenever you hear some false "christian" teacher or false "christian" prophet on tv telling you that christians must bless israel above others, or bless so-called "jews" of today above others, or if they call modern day so-called "jews" the chosen people of God, they are liars and deceivers. if they tell you that to be a good christian, you must worship and support the modern antichrist nation of israel, they are liars and frauds.

they are contradicting the word of God.

the word of God tells us explicitly in no uncertain terms who is a true jew and who are the imposters.

For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh. But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. --Romans 2: 28,29

now contrast this with the imposters that Jesus identified for us in the book of Revelation.

I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. --Revelation 2:9

Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. --Revelation 3:9



To: John Chen who wrote (158798)7/27/2003 7:56:29 PM
From: Cyprian  Respond to of 164684
 
all these false prophets and false teachers deceive unsuspecting christians into believing that we are to worship people of a certain flesh (imposters who call themselves jews), and that christians must bless and support israel at all costs.

once again, they contradict the word of God.

the bible tells us we are not to worship God in the carnal or worldly sense. we are to worship God in spirit and in truth. all these christian zionists deceivers are trying to trick their millions of christian followers into believing that God wants us to focus obsessively on a piece of dirt in the middle east, and that all of bible prophecy hinges on some mostly turko-mongolian khazar imposters who call themselves jews.

Jesus told the samaritan woman at the well that times were a changin, and that the true worshippers were no longer to focus on carnal and worldly things such as mountains and the city of jerusalem.

Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. --John 4:21-24

There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. --Romans 8:1

For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. .--Romans 8:5-8

Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision. For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh. --Philippians 3:2-3

For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. --Ephesians 2:10-12


Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence