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To: Dayuhan who wrote (108609)	7/28/2003 11:07:44 PM
From: Jacob Snyder	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

<Roosevelt had taken a personal interest in Indochina> Two of the tragedies in American history, are that, at the end of both the Civil War and WW2, we lost Leaders (capital L), who were replaced by unprepared inexperienced men. Truman rose to the occasion, but the aftermath of the Civil War was a mess (ReConstruction, then Jim Crow, and a century of bitterness).

To: Dayuhan who wrote (108609)	7/29/2003 2:20:04 AM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

I don't think the American left had much to do with it. I don't want to fight the "Who lost China" battle but we know a lot more about FDR's "Uncle Joe" attitude now. He felt he could control things. And gave away the store in Europe. As Hawk mentioned, we were a lot less interested in Asia compared to Europe, and our Asia interest was all Japan and China. The commies were not as monolithic as we presumed at the time, but we were right to be cautious in our attitude and assume the worst, IMO. I suspect if we had kept the French out of Nam, eventually the Chinese would have helped Ho take over, if he hadn't already. How to describe State in 46? Establishment East Coast. Anti-Semitic, Liberal, Eurocentric. I think more Pro-Colonial than FDR. "White Man's Burden." But underneath, a feeling that Socialism was the wave of the future.