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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (108801)	7/30/2003 12:04:32 AM
From: Jacob Snyder	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

<organized, by the way, by aging Stalinists> Get a grip. These bogey-men are as fictional as the lists of "Communists in the State Department" that Senator McCarthy used to wave, during his rants. Stalinists, in the U.S.A. today, are very very very "thin on the ground". The anarchists outnumber the Stalinists about 20 to 1, and the environmentalists outnumber them by about 2000 to 1.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (108801)	7/30/2003 12:14:17 AM
From: GST	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

It is hard to justify war by saying "we killed the other guys". It is hard to justify war by saying "we didn't like those people". If war could be justified in that way, the world would be swimming in a sea of blood, seven days a week, fifty-two weeks a year. There are always people to be killed and always people that somebody does not like. An actual reason is needed. Self-defense is widely accepted as the only reason -- just as it is on the streets of America. If you killed somebody on the street, and later confessed that he was not actually a threat to you, but pointed out that he was known to smack his wife and kids, you would still be guilty of murder. Even if he himself was a murderer, you would yourself now be guilty of murder. That is how it works -- it is called the rule of law and it forms the basis for human civilization.