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Politics : Support the French! Viva Democracy! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Solon who wrote (2280)	7/30/2003 1:36:42 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 7834

Did you understand that the "consent" concept is one basic part, but only one little but basic part of the concept of "consensus systems". I hope you also got some insight into how difficult it is, from within a two-party system, to find some references to what a "political consensus system" is?? As a matter of fact this two-party dilemma has been associated with the expression "catch-22" in the short public debate (after it had been banned, and until it once again became banned) on how UK is very busy in reforming their system. What about the concept of "adversarial political systems"?? not to forget connecting "antagonistic" to "adversarial" plus that "perpetual" thing in contrast to "consensus" and "coalitions"?? Btw, the latest time I heard the word "consensus" used in a somewhat understandable way for anyone living withing a "consensus-system" was when Pat Buchanan, in a very somber and serious tone, declared that "his major task and attempt is to build consensus within the republican party" The question was something like this "why are you fooling around with all those extremes". Additionally, in addition to that old question, "is an apple different from a fruit" one can use a more american expression of "playing the ball or not" (as well as others, like "mud wrestling:, "dog fights" (UK) and some others) Nothing new nor revolutionary, actually very ancient and what has been put into actual implementations and mechanisms by many nations and political systems since the birth of the anglo-american adversarial two-party systems in the 16-1700s.