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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Ish who wrote (436119)	7/30/2003 7:02:23 PM
From: Sidney Reilly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769669

You may change your mind after they thoroughly trash your house, take your computer, and take you to be locked up while they decide if you're a threat to national security (meaning a threat to them). And you have no rights to due process, no bail, no preliminary hearing, they don't have to bring charges or releases you, they don't even have to admit they have you. Oh, and no telephone call. And all because someone on this stupid thread was mad because they couldn't win an argument with you so they turned you in on some bogus charge. It's like the book "The Joke". The story is that a friend of someone denounced them to the KGB for doing something which was a joke but the KBG are humorless folk and refused to see the joke. He ended up in prison. Orwellian thought engulfs and smothers us.

To: Ish who wrote (436119)	7/30/2003 7:10:10 PM
From: miraje	Respond to of 769669

Fine by me, I have nothing to hide. Then where would you draw the line? Cameras on every corner? Cops stopping you, questioning you, and patting you down with no probable cause? Domestic passports? Requiring permission to travel from state to state? Where do you want governmental intrusion into privacy to stop? I'm truly convinced that the PATRIOT Act is dangerous legislation. IMO, it's a bad precedent sliding this country down a slippery slope. I don't know who authored the following, but it sure rings true to me: Those who trade freedom for security end up with neither...