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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (108942)7/30/2003 7:52:37 PM
From: Jacob Snyder  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
<And then Al Qaida tested it in New York and Washington, and found it had some unexpected drawbacks -g-ng->

What drawbacks? From the viewpoint of Al Queda, things are working out exactly as planned. According to the how-to manuals written by Mao, Ho, and Che', the American response is exactly what the guerrillas want it to be:

1. the guerrillas attack a soft target, using surprise.
2. the anti-guerrilla forces respond with a massive amount of poorly-aimed fire-power.
3. large numbers of civilians on the battlefield, move from the category of "neutral, just leave me out of it" to "I hate America; they won't leave me out of it; I have to choose sides". Again, see the trend in Pew poll results, for how counter-productive America's response has been, so far.
4. repeat steps 1-3 above. With each repetition of the cycle, the guerrilla base of support among the civilians increases, and the area of guerrilla Safe Havens increases. You think we are winning the War, because we hold Kabul and Baghdad and Jenin and Gaza? In the Vietnam War, we held every provincial capital in S. Vietnam, right up to a few weeks before Saigon (Ho Chi Minh City, that is) fell.

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BTW, I am describing the world as it is, not as I would like it to be. What I'd like, what I would consider civilized and legitimate, would be:
1. All conflicts are settled by peaceful negotiation using previously-agreed-upon rules and enforcement methods. Those rules create a level playing field, where the Strong don't always get to make and use the rules to their advantage.
2. In the event no peaceful method of conflict resolution is available, then Ghandian non-cooperation resistance methods are used.

But the world as it is, is more than 2 standard deviations away from the world I would like. I consider almost every method currently in use, for conflict resolution among nations, to be illegitimate. The world has yet to move beyond MightMakesRight. But it will, or die trying.



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (108942)7/30/2003 8:10:11 PM
From: Dayuhan  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
And then Al Qaida tested it in New York and Washington, and found it had some unexpected drawbacks

What were the drawbacks? As far as I can see, it accomplished exactly what it was intended to accomplish. They wanted a war, they got one. They may or may not be able to win the war, but that's a completely different question. We gave them what they wanted.