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To: i-node who wrote (172922)	7/31/2003 1:05:15 AM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571927

You think its better to spend hundreds of billions of dollars and kill thousands rather than do inspections ad nauseum? Why do you continue to ignore Bush's brilliant restructuring of the Middle East? I'm not ignoring it; its not there. We are now helping a democracy take root in Iraq; actually working toward the creation of a Palestinian state; watching Iran move more quickly toward democracy. Even if all you say does happen, its not worth over a $100 billion. Brilliant strategy is when you turn an Iraq into a democracy without a large loss of money and lives. Anyone can take a shack and turn into a mansion with unlimited money. Brilliant is when you turn the shack into a mansion on a budget. To suggest that the entire national security aspect of this war is to overlook these most important consequences. You, Al, and this J Fowler seem to suffer from some liberal illness, whereby you can't really see the big picture. I am very tired of you making liberals the fall guys in your bizarro take on the world. Either learn how to post intelligently and respectively, or get lost!

To: i-node who wrote (172922)	7/31/2003 10:28:48 AM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1571927

<font color=blue> I am not sure why I bother but the article below gives you an idea of the status of Bush's "brilliant" peace plan. To add insult to injury, T. Delay, a member of Bush's own party, is over in Israel 'stirring up the pot', working against Bush's "brilliant" peace plan. Meanwhile back here in the States, you're on this thread posting how everything is going brilliantly and why don't I see Bush's vision. I feel like I've walked into a house of madness where the sky is green and the inmates control the asylum!!<font color=black> ********************************************************** Posted on Thu, Jul. 31, 2003 Israel OKs new construction in Gaza GAVIN RABINOWITZ Associated Press JERUSALEM - Israel on Thursday published building tenders to expand a Jewish settlement in the Gaza Strip - defying a stipulation in the U.S.-backed "road map" peace plan that says construction in Jewish settlements must stop. The tender, published in a newspaper by the Israel Lands Authority, offers rights to build 22 new housing units in the Neveh Dekalim settlement and fulfills a key bureaucratic step in the expansion of settlements. It is the first such tender for a Gaza settlement in about two years. Palestinians and Israeli peace activists blasted the move - which follows meetings in recent days by both sides' leaders with President Bush - as a blow to the nascent peace efforts. "This is a very dangerous step taken by the Israeli government," said Nabil Abu Rdeneh, an aide to Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat. "It seems that the Israelis have either misunderstood the message which President Bush tried to send to both sides or that they took his message as a green light to violate the road map." Palestinians view the West Bank and Gaza settlements, on land they claim for a future state, as a major obstacle to peace. There are about 220,000 settlers in the West Bank. In smaller Gaza, about 8,000 settlers live in heavily guarded enclaves amid more than a million Palestinians. Israel says a certain amount of building is necessary to accommodate natural growth within the settlements. But the road map, authored by the United States, the European Union, the United Nations and Russia, says Israel must freeze "all settlement activity (including natural growth of settlements)." Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's Cabinet accepted the road map in May, but with reservations on settlements and other issues; a settlement freeze has never been brought to the Cabinet, where a hardline majority would likely reject it. Sharon says Israel cannot be expected to fully comply with the road map until the Palestinians disarm militant groups, as required by the plan. The Palestinians say they need time to persuade militants to lay down their arms. Meanwhile, militant groups declared a temporary halt to attacks on Israelis in June. Bush's meetings with Sharon and Palestinian premier Mahmoud Abbas do not appear to have broken this deadlock. Israel's Lands Authority defended the new tenders in a statement, saying they were "issued after receiving all the necessary permits and with the authorization of the defense minister." The Defense Ministry had no comment. Settler spokesman Eran Sternberg welcomed the move, saying the Gaza settler population had grown slightly despite almost three years of violence. "New housing is really necessary," he said. "New people want to come and live here and there are residents who want to upgrade their houses." Yariv Oppenheimer of Peace Now, an Israeli group that monitors settlement activity, dismissed the natural growth argument. "This is government building in an ideological settlement - not a city with a housing problem," he says. The tender says that 10 of the 22 plots are for local residents, while the rest will be offered to the general Israeli public.