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To: Dayuhan who wrote (108995)	7/31/2003 3:14:17 AM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

You want to see the Internet at work, find an upscale university in a 3rd world country (we do have them) and hang out with the graduating class. You'll think you're in an LA suburb. I think there are still two sides to this. ESL has got to be a problem for some of these kids. You never really understand a second language as well as your first, IMO. The article points out the problem if the Gov starts trying to "regulate" these overseas hires. But the Foreign Universities don't have the PC problems we do. They understand the kids have to succeed, and not just adjust to life. So the Grads are a lot more motivated to succeed. When I see our Polynesian kids here in the Islands being pushed into immersion in the Hawaiian language instead of learning "CNN English", it just frosts me. They know better in Asia.

To: Dayuhan who wrote (108995)	7/31/2003 4:21:43 AM
From: frankw1900	Respond to of 281500

Companies that go looking for sharp people who are willing to work can also find what they're looking for. Yes, and the good ones won't stay cheap for long. The thought I had reading the article was, "what has this guy been smoking? Hasn't he looked at the ethnic makeup of Silicon Valley pioneers? Every second one is named Singh and they didn't fall off a vegetable truck. And they didn't do their first or second degrees - and that's where the heavy lifting is done - in the US." Lots of hyberbole there - there are other ethnicities than just Indian - but the picture is correct. These people are a resource that is not being productively used, because the people at the management and investment level in most of these countries have no clue about what the resource can do. I think you're right. As the older generation in (eg) India retires the young ones who are up to speed will revolutionize how business (even small business) is done. It's already started - two years ago I found third world small businesses online - download your autocad file and do the casting. Four years ago I bought online a nifty program from a guy in the Ukraine. That's technically low level but things are speeding up, aren't they? This struck me: The people these companies are hiring are in their 20s, mostly. They have a few billion internet hours under their belts. They have access to exactly the same hardware, software (generally for free) and information that the young Americans do. These kids are not coming out of the village. They come from upper middle class families, mostly, and they are so much like Americans of the same age that with your eyes closed you can't tell the difference Yesterday I was looking for some technical information for hacking my Sony Minidisc and I found a series of useful boards where the sharp folk, when they weren't talking tech, were discussing their high school exam results. They lived everywhere but the intellectual style was the same even though it had different 'flavours'.