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To: LindyBill who wrote (109241)8/1/2003 4:10:33 AM
From: D. Long  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
I certainly hope when we have Saddam in the corner, there will be enough left of him to display on TV too. Maybe we can lay father next to sons, and leave a nice family picture for history.

Derek



To: LindyBill who wrote (109241)8/1/2003 4:12:00 PM
From: Bilow  Respond to of 281500
 
Hi LindyBill; Re Charles Krauthammer's article: "When the Iraqi monarchy was overthrown in 1958, Prime Minister Nuri Said, fleeing disguised as a woman, was caught, castrated and hacked to pieces by a crowd. When the strongman who took power, Abdul Karim Kassem, was overthrown five years later, he was shot and his body displayed on television. When Najibullah, deposed dictator of Afghanistan, was killed by the Taliban in 1996, he too was castrated, shot and hung, still alive, from a lamppost."

I know that it's inevitable that if you wrestle with pigs you're going to get muddy, but I still find it disgusting that someone would attempt to justify US government actions by comparing them to similar actions by, (in the list of three above) the Baathists in Iraq or the Taliban in Afghanistan. If the justification is going to read "why shouldn't we do it, Satan does it all the time?", then how are we going to morally distinguish ourselves from the other side.

Re: "It is rather odd that Martha Stewart does a perp walk for trading ImClone, but Tariq Aziz, complicit in the murder and torture of tens of thousands, does not. The reason is simple: The Baathist thugs are war prisoners, and international law does not permit their display. But there's a loophole. You are not allowed to parade a prisoner on television, but there is nothing in the Geneva Conventions about displaying dead bodies. Hence the display of Uday and Qusay. They were not only the most important torturers. They were the deadest."

This is a simple misreading of the Geneva Convention. The convention clearly states that corpses are not to be had fun with. They're to be placed in the ground, with identification, if possible, and their relatives are to be notified through the Red Cross.

Our guys had no problem seeing the Geneva Convention problems when it was our guys bodies showing up on TV (and that without the post mortem make-up).

-- Carl