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To: GST who wrote (109489)	8/2/2003 5:24:58 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

By the way, Japan's invasion of its resource-rich Asian neighbors in WW2 was entirely based on "self-defense", just like our invasion of Iraq was in "self-defense". If Japan had been a democratic nation, and invaded a brutal totalitarian regime for the purpose of creating a self-governing democratic (or at least stable and modern) society, rather than conquering, and inflicting its own brutal rule, I wouldn't have minded... But then again, unlike people of your ilk, I don't consider non-democratic governments to be legitimate. They are something that a democratic nation must tolerate and live with, until such time that their national interests are threatened by these dictators. And I have no qualms about overthrowing despots, since they do everything they are permitted to get away with to undermine democratic ideals and international cooperation. The situation would have been totally different had Iraq been democratic, reflecting the views and perspectives of its electorate. But then again, had Iraq been democratic, the conditions that led to this war would likely never have arisen.. Hawk

To: GST who wrote (109489)	8/2/2003 5:30:49 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Btw, GST.. any comments about how Kim Jong Il suddenly dropped all of his demands for one on one negotiations with the US? Another victory for the Bush administration... Who cares if the world's elitists like us... Just so they respect us.. (or what we can do to, or for, them).. All I require is that every action we take in fighting this war has as its foundation, creating progressive and democratic (or a close approximation) societies that create political accountability to their citizens. Because people are pretty much the same around the world. They prefer their own interests be met by their government, rather than being used as cannon fodder for the purpose of fulfilling the delusional aspirations of some dictator.. Hawk