To: epicure who wrote (109606 ) 8/3/2003 2:25:13 PM From: bela_ghoulashi Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500 There you go. That'll work. Far better than flouncing around pretending to be something you're not. Ken's real secret, imho, the thing that made him a good moderator, was that he was able to set aside his own politics and be even-handed, empathetic, flexible, truly tolerant, and remarkably patient with all the posters on this board...far more patient than he was sometimes given credit for by discrete individuals. He did not indulge himself by using his moderator status as an opportunity to be bossy or narcissistically self-assertive. He moderated with conscience. It was not an ego-trip for him, it was a real responsibility. He did the hard work, he did the heavy lifting, he endured the griping, the complaining, the petty resentments, and the hurt feelings, and they truly weighed on him. He listened to those he moderated, and he heard them out, as long as they approached him with a common understanding of what he was trying to accomplish here. If nothing else, I myself am a testament to how far he was genuinely willing to bend in spite of bad behavior. Ken really cared. He was not here just for his own sake, and he was not riding in on any else's coattails or borrowing somebody else's robes. The idea that anyone and everyone can just waltz in here at any time and start playing his role at their own convenience, for their own convenience, is too absurd for words. If the goal is to truly approximate what Ken was doing on this thread, the thing to do would be pick one or two veteran posters, one from each side of the aisle, and have everyone pm their complaints to those parties . Then have them consult, and issue some sort of joint statement to the party involved. Otherwise you just have a dozen free-lance prima donnas sashaying around with none of the qualities, commitment, skill, or personal responsibility that Ken truly brought to the table, and paying none of the cost that he was willing to pay.