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To: Sig who wrote (109855)	8/4/2003 10:53:55 AM
From: GST	Respond to of 281500

<<My position is that the cost of doing nothing about Terrorists and threats would be much higher than the costs of doing what has been done,>> If Iraq was a threat and if Iraq was a hotbed of anti-American terrorists under Saddam, then at least the invasion would be internally consistent -- but there was no terrorist threat and no nuclear threat with weak evidence of some old third-world style non-conventional weapons without any delivery systems. We now know that even those old weapons were destroyed. There is no excuse for invading Iraq. In the mean time, real threats have not been addressed. I don't buy the Bush Doctrine, but even if i did I would conclude that it has been foolishly twisted to justify an Iraqi invasion.

To: Sig who wrote (109855)	8/4/2003 2:26:19 PM
From: Graystone	Respond to of 281500

You are welcome Sig or The War on Al Qaeda I agree with your basic tenet, that the war on Terrorism cannot be won with inaction and the cost is not the object. The problem that I see with the Bush Doctrine is the current implementation in Iraq is beyond the ability of the United States to complete, even with full support of the Iraqi people. Mr Hamre's report used words like "supercharge" and "turbocharge" in regards to moving forward in Iraq, there has been no evidence that the Administration heard Mr. Hamre. International co-operation is needed and it isn't going to appear without a lot of work. According to Dr. Hamash, the Iraqis have always believed that Saddam Hussein was installed and supported by the west as a puppet. This impression was greatly reinforced during the Shia rebellion at the end of the Gulf War, anyone who wasn't sure about Saddam's power over the "West" must have been very impressed by the slaughter. The current US presence of 150,000 soldiers offering an incredible pile of dinars for Hussein might not look like liberation, they probably think that this is some sort of international drug deal that has gone bad.