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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (438087)	8/4/2003 3:12:35 PM
From: MSI	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

Exactly... That's what made me a Dean supporter, commonsense support of our political system, rather than depending on consultants' scripted focus group-based issues list, which Gore failed with, as are others in the lineup who don't have convictions. Dean talks and acts like a public servant. Losing his brother in Vietnam made him a serious reformer. Once you start going down a sober Constitutionalist road, these lawyerly Neocon claims fall apart like soggy cardboard. It ends up being lies upon lies, all predicated on suppressing facts and arguments. No wonder officials want to exit the administration before it blows up, literally and figuratively. The truth appears to be simply that every effort is being made to increase central power, not just in the fed gov't, but exclusively into the hands of the Executive. Its gone so far with prior presidents that the road back is a long one. The Bush Cabal is way out on a limb on this one. If they want even a chance, they'll have to either (a)change their rhetoric to including some lip-service for the Constitution, instead of the flimsy excuses that don't even impress a Republican state like Alaska, or (b)get right to work on martial law and distraction of extreme violence and fear. Unfortunately I think they're looking at Plan (b)

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (438087)	8/4/2003 3:20:41 PM
From: SecularBull	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769667

ASHCROFT AND D.O.J. EXPOSED!! John Ashcroft, Maligned Again From the August 4 / August 11, 2003 issue (The Weekly Standard): The New York Times tells more whoppers about the Patriot Act. by David Tell 08/04/2003, Volume 008, Issue 45 "REPORT ON U.S. Antiterrorism Law Alleges Violations of Civil Rights"--so read the headline on the July 21 front page of the New York Times. It was a scoop of sorts: The report in question, prepared by the office of Justice Department inspector general Glenn A. Fine, hadn't yet been released. It had, however, been delivered to the department's congressional overseers, one of whom, ranking House Judiciary Committee Democrat John Conyers of Michigan, arranged for a copy to be "made available" to Times correspondent Philip Shenon. Conyers also provided Shenon with a written statement helpfully highlighting the document's significance: "This report shows that we have only begun to scratch the surface with respect to the Justice Department's disregard of constitutional rights and civil liberties." And Shenon repaid Conyers's courtesy with a 1,200-word piece more or less explicitly concluding that, yup, that's what the IG report does, all right. Continued, here: theweeklystandard.com